Talk:Ciara/Archive 1

Image
We need a image i think we should try to post a image of the person on almost every page —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jorge527 (talk • contribs) 01:57, 22 December 2006 (UTC). i second him.. =] Pretty Ricky aint breakin up yall! yay!! Tam` Tam` =] 00:58, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah sounds good maybe a origianal picture Cristian Garcia

Actress???
Im sorry, but staring in ONE b-movie does not make you an "actress". I feel the need to remove this from her thesis. Who's with me? -69.250.130.215

Well,no matter how many movies she's been in,she is still considered an Actress now.Besides,I think she's coming out with a new movie pretty soon.--Kelsie.&amp;hearts;.You 00:51, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Your comment was written in sound and furry, signifieing nothing.

She is an actress! and it should NOT be removed becuz if u are a person who has ppl beggin u to be in thier movie after acting in one u ARE an actress..=]Pretty Ricky aint breakin up yall! yay!! Tam` Tam` =] 01:01, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Ciara as a name
Does anyone think that Ciara should be directed to a disambiguation page for the name "Ciara"? As in, the feminine form of Ciaran? It's not like Ciara, the singer, is the only notable person with the name Ciara, and therefore I think it would be wise to form up a disambiguation page for Ciara. Think about it: Conrad on wikipedia doesn't go straight to Joseph Conrad, it goes to a page where you can see what the name Conrad means and what notable people are called Conrad. Anyone with me on this?

no i typed in Ciara to get here 1dsm3 17:39, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * This is certainly a good idea if you can point us to articles about other notable people with this name. --Yamla 23:22, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

i thinks it a bad idea becuz the search would be alot easier if u just typed in "Ciara" instead of "Ciara(singer)'' to get Ciara..=]Pretty Ricky aint breakin up yall! yay!! Tam` Tam` =] 01:02, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Snopes Link
The snopes link just criss-crosses Ciara's case with other people or qoute from her. It dosen't really attack the claim.

It isn't meant to attack the claim. It shows why the case is wrong. Anyway, can someone give a source for Ciara dating Bow Wow? This is the first I've heard of it and I'm a big fan.

The transgender/intersex rumor
Kindly stop removing this paragraph - searching google for "ciara transgender OR transsexual OR intersex*" produces 40,100 results - hence that is obviously a quite relevant thing, whatever one thinks about such rumors. -- AlexR 15:28, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

THIS IS INAPPROPIATE TO PUT ON SOMEONES BIO. IF SHE HAS NEVER CONFIRMED IT, AND THERE IS NO EVIDENCE THAT SHE HAS, THEN IT SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED. User:24.29.172.35


 * Well, that is the whole point, isn't it? Obviously, the rumor was started elsewhere, and here we dispell it, so you are complaining about exactly what?. Not to mention that comments by unsigning anons usually that are also shouted are not exactly the epitome of politeness themself. -- AlexR 07:18, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Well i heard that 1 girl name ciara actually said that, then somehow the whole world said it was the singer ciara. so its most likely not true. i storgnly believe shes a female if not shes a homeaphrodite. simple ~LML~ 16:53, 12th april 2007

I don't see why the hell we don't have an entire section dedicated to that rumor. It was obviously extremely widespread and should be discussed, even if just to say it was false. Not to mention most people who search this article are just looking for info on that, anyway. 67.171.5.200 00:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

'Emerald Isle' --> Duh, it's Ireland.. that reference & stub should be changed
The Wiki article refers to the intersexual 'Ciara of Emerald Isle', and links to a Wiki stub page with that title. 'Emerald Isle' was lifted from the Snopes.com article (link found at the bottom of the Ciara Harris Wiki page), where it says the intersexual was from Ireland.. and later refers to it as the 'Emerald Isle'. (emerald=green; a traditional Irish colour). The intersexual Ciara is therefore NOT, and SHOULD NOT be referred to as 'Ciara of Emerald Isle', but (possibly) 'Ciara, the intersexual'.

The Wiki Stub should be changed, as should the reference & link in the Ciara Harris article.


 * Uhm, no, that Ciara is not intersex, she is transgender - not only her article says so, but also her web page. As for the "Emerald Isle", I don't know who put that there, but I assumed that somewhere she refers to that "title" herself. I guess a change to "Ciara from Ireland" would be appropriate if no such self-reference can be found. --AlexR 19:54, 21 August 2005 (UTC)


 * The TRANSgendered woman's name is Ciara Byrne and she is from Irleand. Ciara Harris is twenty years her junior.

you idiots ! she admitted it was true on oprah a few months ago. she didn't want her fans to be undecided. it is the truth ya'll !


 * Give us some proof then, because I heard an interview of her denying that she was a man, and her saying that she'd never been on Oprah in her life. You're the idiot!

if she had confessed on Oprah it would have been all over the internet-CristianGarcia

Engagement to Bow Wow
Should the page reflect that Ciara is now engaged to Bow Wow? --Cumbiagermen 06:16, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

She actually engaged to Bow Wow now? Whoa. -- 24.90.128.71 02:11, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

If a source can be cited which states that she is in fact engaged, only then should the page be updated to reflect that. Hall Monitor 20:24, 14 October 2005 (UTC)She is a really good singer. I wish i could get my songs to be a big hit like hers.

Yeah, i agree. I've only heard them and seen articles about them denying the engagement. ~Jak

now they is so broken up !

take it out cuz dey broke up...=]Pretty Ricky aint breakin up yall! yay!! Tam` Tam` =] 01:08, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation of the name
How is her name pronounced? Is it like "Keera" as the Irish name Ciara is pronounced? If somebody knows, could they put it into the article? 83.71.37.250 21:44, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Its pronounced like (SEE-AIR-RUH) She says her name is said alll the time in her singles. Alot of times on tv they might pronouced it (SEE-ARE-RUH) which is incorrect. The pronouciation was even joked about by the officer on Ciara's episode of punk'd. Very funny stuff.


 * Actually, the officer pronounced her name (KY-AIR-RUH) then he asked if her friends called her "Ki-Ki". Ciara should've known it was fake then, that was a totally irrelevant question for an officer to ask. (sigh) The world of entertainment... so horrid. --Miss Ciara 20:36, 5 June 2006


 * Well, if that is correct, she is not pronouncing it the way the name is meant to be pronounced. It is an Irish name and is more correctly pronounced, "KEE ah ra" or, less often, "KEER a".  Its meaning, more or less, is "dark" or "black".  Still, it's her name.  She's free to invent new pronunciations if that is her desire.  --Yamla 04:33, 31 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, Felicia is a latin name pronounced "FEL-EE-SEE-UH" but is commonly prnounced "FEL-EE-SHUH" alot of names are like that. Expecially African-Americans(not to be racist) will take a name and twist it to make it sound to their desire or keep the spelling and change the pronounciation. This is common where I'm from. 67.181.94.96 04:52, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Its impossible to say names the "correct" way. It all depends on culture, race, and preference, quite frankly. Disinclination 21:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

i added it to tha page now so please stop with all the irish pronounciations..=] &#39;&#39;Pretty Ricky aint breakin up yall! yay!! Tam` Tam` =]&#39;&#39; 01:13, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

It's the same as you would Sierra, Ciara is Celtic and means Black, and Sierra is Spanish and means Mountain, but are said the same way. ({Scoriation})10.6.07 6:59 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scoriation (talk • contribs) 22:55, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Breakup with Bowwow section removed
I've removed the entire section (other than the image) as, IMO, it just isn't suitable for inclusion in an encyclopedia. The content is not significant and the style is straight from a gossip magazine. Encyclopedia articles and content are written differently. I'm not going to get into an edit war over this, but before restoring this section, please consider; will it make the article and/or the encyclopedia better? Thanks, Colonel Tom 22:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree wholeheartedly. I'm kind of a curmudgeonly bastard when it comes to this article, though, so my point of view here may not carry much weight.  --Yamla 22:57, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Goodies X 10
From here (as cited in the article), "I'm calling the album, 'Goodies X 10'. It's kind of like 'Goodies' to the tenth power." Is this a misquote? Did Ciara mean for this to be rendered as 'Goodies10' (and presumably the National Ledger just couldn't figure out how to typeset this), or is Ciara unable to do simple elementary school math? I bring this up because we are reporting the rumour that the next album is called 'Goodies X 10' but it is possible this has simply been misreported. --Yamla 00:44, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

um it was sarcasm
 * I can't believe you thought that what she said was serious.

if this was in the article im removin it because it was sarcasm..=]Pretty Ricky aint breakin up yall! yay!! Tam` Tam` =] 01:15, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Transexual Rumors
I deleted that article because it was inimpotant, and fairly old. Besides, the article said that Ciara didn't deny the rumors, but I heard this from her mouth in an interview with Barbara Beam.


 * Barbara: Alright, gossip time, rumor time. There's an alleged interview that you were on Oprah's shows stating that you were born with boy parts. True or false, Ciara!
 * Ciara: That's completely false!

And the rumors were that she was born a hermaphrodite, not a transexual. But it doesn't matter, it's not true anyway. --ATL Boi

Was she saying the comment was false or the interview? 218.101.117.133 07:14, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

the comment and the interview..=] Pretty Ricky aint breakin up yall! yay!! Tam` Tam` =] 01:17, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Here in uk most people know this rumour about Ciara, wouldnt it be a good idea to just address the issue in a subtle way? I think we should put on the site that she isn't transexual so we can stop that rumour-Cristian-Garcia

Awards List
What ever happened to Ciara's awards list?

It is on the new awards page.

Tours
I think it should be mentioned that she is going to be supporting Rihanna in the U.K. On Rhianna's Good Girl Gone Bad tour - Theo Roberts

Influences
On her offical Myspace page, Ciara states that he influences are Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston and Madonna. I feel that this should be included - Theo Roberts

Notes and references
Can we please add references on Ciara's page to know if the information is reliable. Charmed36 28 August 2006


 * Alright instead of citations and crap you should rely on me because I'm Ciara's #1 fan, and I've read the page's content and it's ALL true, all of it. (CiaraPageLuv 20:23, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Whatever I'm the biggest Ciara fan. That's why Ciara's pages have lots of information. We need citations. Charmed36 30 August 2006

No Im Ciara's biggest fan #1 and she went 3x platinum and her album second album was certified 2x platinum >>>Tymeek<<

Wow, you guys are acting so childish, fighting over who is Ciara's biggist fan, becuase millions of people could claim that title for them selves. Its so stupid, you know? I mean, most artists would say that their mother or father are their biggist fans, you should belive them, and not get so full of yourselves. ({Scoriation}) 10.6.07 7:08 PM —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scoriation (talk • contribs) 23:04, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

MTV
Does MTV air the video for "Get Up?" I haven't seen it on MTV and VH1 just on TRL once and digital channels MTV Jams, MTV Hits, VH1 Soul. Charmed36 30 August 2006

Its also on the suckerfree countdown on MTV yesterday (9/11) it came in at number 5. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.251.89.243 (talk • contribs) 12:37, September 12, 2006

Goodies
is a gooa song opf hers and has made manyt rapes in a family contrubuter and has got away with melesting." --Did anyone else notice that part? A gooa song? "Many rapes in a family contrubuter?" and her getting away with molestation? Um...yeah. Someone should fix that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.13.218 (talk • contribs) 18:27, October 9, 2006

What are you talking about? ({Scoriation}) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scoriation (talk • contribs) 23:06, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Ciara
Someone has completely destroyed Ciara's article. It is a mess and really needs to be cleaned up. I have been trying, but it is hard to do right now. Charmed36 02:11, 1 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I know, I'm helping out too. (68.78.1.87 22:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Background
does anyone know her background? ie. her parents info.. 1dsm3 17:42, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I see she's american. what i meant was background .. ie where her parents are from.. thanks 1dsm3 17:45, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't know where exactly her parents are from, but she's African-American. ― Sturr ★彡 Refill/lol 03:53, 6 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Her parents (Carlton Harris, Jackie Harris) are both African American. (CiaraPageLuv 04:11, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Ciara graduated from Riverdale High School!

Her father Carlton Harris was in the Military and her mother Jackie Harris was an Air Force pilot. ({Scoriation}) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scoriation (talk • contribs) 23:08, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Image
The current image IS in fact not copyrighted it's a screenshot from BET. If you want to replace this with something better go ahead but don't make it an image that says it copyrighted right on the picture like the last one. Anom8trw8 01:56, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * You are mistaken. A screenshot from a t.v. show most definitely is copyrighted and this copyright is generally vigorously enforced.  --Yamla 04:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * This accusation is ludicrous. Your personal attacks will not be tolerated.  See WP:FU and, while you are at it, WP:NPA.  --Yamla 04:37, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, but your retort was just unfathomably hilarious. But seriously, why is it other people are allowed to have screenshots as their profiles images yet somehow Ciara doesn't? (CiaraPageLuv 03:10, 16 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Nobody is allowed to use copyrighted non-freely-licensed images to depict living people. Not all of the images have yet been marked for deletion.  --Yamla 03:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Removed Info
Somebody removed her discography page. Can it be added back?

Thank You

I noticed that too so I fixed the problem.

Music - Crunk?
Since she's a musician, a little more about her musical style might be useful - and specifically a link to the Crunk article, which refers to her as a notable crunk artist. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by KD Tries Again (talk • contribs) 19:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC).

Ciara is not crunk artist. Because Goodies was a crunk song, everyone thinks she's a crunk musician, which is wrong. Ciara has even said she's not a crunk singer. Charmed36 01:55, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Fair enough - that alone might be worth saying, because I bet I'm not the only one who has heard that "Princess of Crunk" thing again and again. KD Tries Again 17:03, 29 January 2007 (UTC)KD

I think it should mention that she is known as The Princess of Crunk & B !! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.6.169.174 (talk) 08:59, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, the Princess of Crunk-&B is the title she has earned because of her songs having the styles Crunk and R&B mixed, maybe thats why she is so popular. ({Scoriation}) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scoriation (talk • contribs) 23:11, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Locked
I think it's a good idea to have this article locked down. Charmed36 01:55, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Pop songs
Are "Goodies" and "Oh" pop songs? I know Ciara's other singles are pop songs. Who thinks they are? Both songs are catchy and easy to sing to. They both topped the charts. Charmed36 15:23, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Ciara "Goodies" went 3x Platinum and Discography is mostly wrong
Ciara has went triple-platinum already believe me I know Im a TRUE Ciara fan. She even announced it on the radio and in XXL magaine in February the one with usher on the cover and it was a article about her. She sold 3.8 million in the U.S. and it was 6 million appromixately worldwide so change that and Oh went to #1 twice on the Billboard Hot 100 and the U.S. R&B and "1,2 Step" and "Goodies" went platinum "Oh" went gold. "1,2 Step" was #1 not #2 on U.S. Hot 100,in the U.K. Also Get up isn't a single because Can't Leave 'Em Alone was called the "third" single not the fourth.

tymeek Ciara's #1 FAN

you got all your facts mixed up,,, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.205.108.137 (talk) 20:31, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

When Ciara actually settled in Atlanta, Georgia
I think it's important to note that Ciara settled down in Atlanta at around the age of 13 as many people might be led to believe that she may have settled there earlier. I find this relevant as it may lead fans to understand her influences and upbringing. I would think it to be relevant that she hasn't even spent half of her life there. This information has been stated in many other bios so why not here.

Writing credits
Does anyone know or have the credits of Ciara's tracks "Love You Better" and "Addicted"? Charmed36 19:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Under Album-Evolution- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.205.108.137 (talk) 16:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)