Talk:Cima Tosa

First ascent
Can anyone find a convincing source for the first ascent by Giuseppi Loss? This ascent with 6 unknown companions, with one stopping early out of fear, is an oft repeated story, but around 1893 Karl Schulz wrote in the Erschliessung der Ostalpen in a footnote: "Für eine frühere Besteigung des Berges durch G. Loss von Cles, di nach Gambillo (La Valle di Rendena 1882, 107) am 19. Juli 1865 stattgefunden haben soll, habe ich keine hinreichende Beglaubigung erlangen können" (google-translate at will). John Ball was clearly not aware of any ascent over the same route four days earlier (see his account here, published in 1873). You'd expect Loss et al to have built a cairn or left another sign on the summit. After four days you would even expect to see the occasional footprints of a group of six or seven people. Loss' "first ascent" of Cima d'Asta in 1845 mentioned in the footnote is almost assuredly apocryphal as he would have been 13 or 14 at the time, the mountain was likely already climbed in 1816 by surveyors, and in 1893 Gustav Euringer, who climbed it himself in 1882, was not aware of any written or oral accounts of an ascent. Afasmit (talk) 11:21, 3 July 2014 (UTC)