Talk:Cindy "Mac" Mackenzie

Character comparisons
I've removed some original research comparing Mac to Marshall Flinkman of Alias and to Willow on Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The only comparison I left was to James Bond's Q, which was explicitly made within the show (and alluded to at least one other time), making it sourced by the show itself. If we are going to make such comparisons here, we need to back them up by citing reliable sources like print publications and professional reviews, not fan websites or discussion forums. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 14:43, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Real Name?
should it be pointed out in the little table thing that TECHNICALLY her name is really madison sinclair?WookMuff 03:52, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * No, because it's not true. Her non-biological parents named her "Cindy Mackenzie".  That's what they put on her birth certificate.  That's her name.  Period.  Just because she was switched at birth with Madison Sinclair doesn't mean that their names were switched too. Canonblack 02:40, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
 * She wasn't so much switched at birth, per se, as she was switched in the hospital before leaving, I thought. Her parents named their baby Madison Sinclair. From a genetic and legal point of view, she IS Madison Sinclair. If she stepped up upon Madison's parents death and said "Thats my inheritance, not yours" she would have an excellent case. So, her name is technically Madison Sinclair. WookMuff 03:52, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Very tricky stuff, until you remember one thing... the court case. That's how Veronica found out. The parents of both girls sued the hospital, and got a million or something. But KEPT their non-biological kids. So the parents KNOW that the kids were switched - remember Mac's REAL (biological) mom drive by when they were packing for a road trip? Mac is 'genetically' a Sinclair, but legally listed as Cindy Mackenzie. And in terms of inheritance; a forfeiture clause to future inheritance rights, written into the out of court settlement, would have been par for the course. TECHNICALLY, she SHOULD'VE been Madison Sinclair, but TECHNICALLY, she ISN'T Madison Sinclair. FlyBang 21:31, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

MySpace Info
I've noticed a lot of articles devoted to Veronica Mars characters - including this one - incorporate information found on various MySpace accounts "belonging" to said characters. I can't really find anything on any of these pages confirming them as officially related to Veronica Mars or Rob Thomas - and while some look somewhat professional, they also often include questionable or contradictory information - for instance, Wallace Fennel's account lists his hometown as Chicago, while in the season 2 episode Blast from the Past, he asks his mother "Who did we bury back in Cleveland?"

Can information from these sites really be considered reliable, or canonical? ~ Shoroko, 5:19 PM (EST), 15 October, 2006


 * Given MySpace's reputation, I think we must consider it one of the most unreliable sources that exists for information on the web. I would remove any information from any MySpace pages for which we don't have a reliable source (e.g., an official, CW- or Rob Thomas-sponsored publication or website) explicitly stating that that MySpace account is actually maintained by the folks behind the show. Too many editors (and far more for TV articles, I've found) seem to think that just because someone claims something on the web, it must be true. After all, wouldn't official parties stop it otherwise? They don't realize there are millions of bogus claims, which no person or even company can possible dedicate the resources to completely stamp out. This was not a problem before the days of the instant, worldwide, professional-looking publication capabilities provided by MySpace et al. It is therefore even more important now to demand reliable sourcing, and treat everything found on the web with suspicion. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 01:04, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The MySpace page being used as a source is not reliable, the information attributed to it does not exist there, and the source of the information on that page and the page ownership is unclear. I've posted templates reflecting this (single source, unreliable, linkrot), and if it isn't fixed by the end of this month I will strip the source citation and all info attributed to it.  This was a halfway decent stub at one point, but the addition of a large amount of fanboi supposition and fanfic is a sick attempt to turn an encyclopedia article into another fansite.  Unfortunately, there is some kind of VM fanboi community lurking on Wikipedia whose goal seems to be to transform all the VM articles into this kind of garbage. 67.162.236.230 (talk) 14:28, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

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