Talk:Cindy Crawford/Archive 1

Gay Icon Project
In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:21, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Slavish Entry
This entry is pure fanzine in its approach. It should be completely rewritten in an encyclopaedia format rather than the "Hello!" magazine tone it has now. Mowens35 09:40, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm going to clean it up now, including the removal of most of the images. Pacian 20:15, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Can we tasetefully work in somewhere that she studied chemical engineering at Northwestern University?

Still fanzine style, so I took a hatchet to it. Hope you like it! --Slashme 17:22, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

High school dropout and pro life celebrity?
It says she graduated high school as class valedictorian and then in categories it says high school dropout. Can we also verify that she is a pro life celebrity? I am taking them down until we get verification.


 * Actually, it said college dropout, which is different, but I think she's in enough categories. Foday 04:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Someone went buck wild with the categories
Wow! Foday 11:55, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


 * They sure did! There are 122 categories listed, and I think that is ridiculous, and not what categories are intended for.  Aside from the many various "Fashion house/corporation (insert name of organisation here) models" categories, we've also got the ludicrous "Supermodels" category - there is no such thing as a "supermodel".  It's a media created term, which we are using here as though it has encyclopedic merit.  It's POV - who decides when a particular model makes the leap from "mere model" to "supermodel"?   "Supermodel" is not a real profession.  Oddly enough, the one modelling category that Crawford should be listed in - ie "Category:Models" - she is not.  I think this is categorization gone crazy and I'd like to see the list culled drastically and many of these categories listed for deletion.  What purpose do they serve?  What do you all think?  Rossrs 14:19, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Wow. There is heaps. Ditch the non-notable ones and definantly nominate Supermodels for deletion. Cvene64 15:21, 8 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Needs more categories -- the list only covers the top quarter of the page. ;-) --Carnildo 08:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 * You're right. "Category:People with hair", "Category:People who wear shoes" and "Category:Supermodels who were previously models" haven't been included, and there must be a few more.  Rossrs 09:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Someone please trim most of those out! Out of curiousity, I clicked on Category:Pepsi models.  There are only two listed.  The other, Bridget Hall, has just about as many categories as Cindy Crawford.  Will every model's page look like these eventually?  I sure hope not.  Dismas|(talk) 09:41, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. If anything, shouldn't that just be made into a list, somewhere inside the article? Luna Santin 11:31, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

So I just made that list. I'm not confident enough in myself to just throw it into the article and remove all the categories, yet... and as you're about to see, most of those items don't even have Wiki articles at this time. So:

Crawford has modelled for Allure, W, Revlon, Versace, L'Oréal, Valentino, Calvin Klein, Michael Kors, Ralph Lauren, Chanel, Christian Dior, Roberto Cavalli, Vogue, Pirelli Calendar, Playboy, Rolling Stone, Gentlemen's Quarterly, Maybelline, North Beach Leather, Escada, Isaac Mizrahi, Capezio, Bally, Ellen Tracy, Blackglamma, Omega, Byblos, Victoria's Secret, Sports Illustrated, Vanity Fair, ELLE, You, Woman & Home, Liz Claiborne, Max, Maxim, Anne Klein, Blumarine, Citroën, David Yurman, Dormeuil, EAS AdvantEdge, El Corte Ingles, Enrico Coveri, Foster Grant, Gap, Grosvenor Furs, Hermes, Hervé Leger, Oscar de la Renta, JH Collectables, Kathleen Madden, Laura Biagiotti, Levante, Moulinex, Palmers, Pepsi, Pizza Hut, Sportmax, Swish Jeans, Umberto Ginocchietti, Weight Watchers, Windsmoor, Via Mujer, Cosmopolitan, Para Ti, Glamour, Style, Options, Marie Claire, Cleo, Claudia, Flare, Scope 88, Photo, Video 7, Madame Figaro, Freizeit Revue, Cioe Girle, Specchio, MODA, Top Model, Blanco Y Negro, Diva, Tatler, Sky, Red, Details, Harper's Bazaar, World Models, Fitness, Vanidades, Ocean Drive, George, John Bartlett, Todd Oldham, and Esteban Cortazar.

So. I'm taking the original editors at their word that the list is accurate (good idea?), but what does somebody say about pruning a few of those off the list? It would make some sense to include something to this effect in a bio, but at what point does it become excessive? Luna Santin 19:14, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Long before this; if these categories all appear on CfD, I will wish them gone. Septentrionalis 22:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, I should mention this here. A relevant CfD entry has generated some discussion. Luna Santin 08:57, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I have no objection to the "Supermodels" category or the more general ones listed, but every " models" category should be removed. Skyraider 23:22, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment: Is it possible to have a Show/Hide button for the categories? She does fit into all of the categories. RENTASTRAWBERRY   FOR LET?   röck  01:56, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

The article makes reference to only one Playboy pictorial. In fact Crawford did two Playboy pictorials, the first in 1988 and again in 1998.

Vital Stats
Cindy Crawford's bust has always been modest at 34b and her waist is far too thick to be 24inches, I read elsewhere that after 2 kids it was closer 28" can some one change it please? These are vanity numbers.

Fact Check
I find the reference used to justify the line, "Crawford's marriage to actor Richard Gere lasted from 1991 to 1995. It was heavily rumored that the marriage was a cover for homosexuality on both sides, but this was denied by both," is highly spurious and borderline tabloid in its content.

The article offers no proof beyond Cindy being seen with a lesbian that she herself is one. I'm deleting the reference to "both sides" until a better reference comes along.

Pepperfield69 06:44, 9 December 2006 (UTC)pepper


 * I agree, but then you'd probably be better off removing the entire sentence; if it's tabloidy for Cindy Crawford then it's tabloidy for Richard Gere. --Molon Labe 05:12, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

picture
I find it amazing that Cindy Crawford the Porn Star has a picture but Cindy Crawford the international icon and "supermodel" doesn't. Could someone please find one
 * Cindy is pictured on the cover of an old Pepsi Points catalog which is posted on that article. Not the best picture but it's better than none. Dwp49423 16:41, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
 * LOL I was about to post this exact same opinion here xD Yeah it's pretty hilarious that Cindy Crawford the porn star has more wiki pictures at hand while Cindy Crawford the "Supermodel" has none!!! xD--Anen87 (talk) 17:31, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Which Music videos Was She In?
Does anyone know in which music videos she was? There is one by George Michael (Freedom '90) and another by another singer where she's a taxi driver. Any others?24.83.148.131 (talk) 11:41, 30 April 2008 (UTC)Beecier

Furniture designer?
Do we have any sources or evidence that she herself actually designed the furniture associated with her name? Does she merit to be called a furniture designer? I would have thought that one needs to study this craft and/or have a respective degree? --Catgut (talk) 05:21, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I have looked into it. Her interview in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution tells what she does in this regard: more that just a celebrity endorsement, but not really a designer.  Diderot&#39;s dreams (talk) 17:02, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Lead: occupations, etc.
I've reverted the lead with modification. Crawford's occupation is difficult to define, but I think actress is not the best description. Although she has a long filmography, a good part of it is not acting, but various other things: TV host, video maker, being documentaries, even about herself.

Also, I feel it's important to include that she is a celebrity and that this lead to the diverse things she does now. Another important point that summarizes her is the diversity of her activities.

I agree that the lead should be what the subject is notable for. That would be modelling, of course, so I have tried to write a lead that emphsizes that. Hope this works for everyone concerned. Diderot's  dreams  (talk) 18:53, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


 * The current version is fine by me. And I agree that her being an actress isn't really first-sentence-worthy or truly defining: as with basically everything Crawford has done, it's really just an extension of her success as a model.  But even if it stayed where it was, it would probably be less silly to call her an actress than it is to say it of Gisele Bundchen and all two of her roles, haha.    Mbinebri   talk &larr; 21:34, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

why does this appear below the infobox title, above the picture ? "200px" does not exist anywhere on the source page   &#x262D;  &emsp;мдснєтє тдлкЅТЦФФ 05:30, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

No Picture?
Seems there used to be picture that was deleted. For this type of article, on a model, a picture is surely vital? --220.101.28.25 (talk) 01:48, 5 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Several picutures have been added, but they have all been deleted as copyright violations.  Diderot's   dreams  (talk) 12:18, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Descent
She looks part–Italian.Lestrade (talk) 17:55, 12 January 2010 (UTC)Lestrade