Talk:Cinema of Canada/Archives/2012

Article Focus Off
This article seems to be on "why Cdn films don't make more money or get more widely distributed" as opposed to giving an overview of Canadian film - genres, notable films, etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.183.57.148 (talk) 04:25, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

What is considered Canadian
Should James Cameron be included as a Canadian director? I know he works and I guess lives in America now, but he was born in Ontario, right?

Do you consider films directed by a Canadian, Canadian? And that use a Canadian distribution company?
 * Going by your edit to the main article, you're talking about Crash, which was made within the Hollywood studio system, was produced by American companies, and was set in the United States. The IMDB page considers it an American-German coproduction. A film's distributor doesn't make it Canadian; a film's director being Canadian doesn't make it Canadian if he made it within the American film industry system. So, no, I don't think we can consider Crash a Canadian film. Bearcat 03:00, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I've taken Crash out. It's no more Canadian than Titanic. Krapp 22:37, 27 August 2006

while i wouldn't question the removal of "Crash", you haven't really answered the question ... what is the criteria for considering a film to be "Canadian"? i'd propose that it be a canadian production company with canadian principals. Telefilm Canada has its own point system for "canadian-ness" ... probably not a great template but a starting point for consideration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.32.51.156 (talk) 05:45, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Notable films
The list subsection here is not meant to be an exhaustive list of every Canadian film ever released; it's meant to be a limited subset consisting only of the most exceptionally notable ones from an artistic, award and/or box office perspective. Can anybody honestly provide evidence that Bon Cop, Bad Cop has actually reached that status at this point? Bearcat 22:31, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Bon Cop, Bad Cop is now the third highest grossing Quebec film of all time (at the domestic box office). It's also the country's first bilingual hit movie. Deserving of inclusion, I'd say, but, yes, the list is rather long. Krapp 22:36, 27 August 2006

Bon Cop, Bad Cop is now listed as "most successful Canadian film of all time at the Canadian box office..." But that's only if we don't take inflation into account. Is there a Wiki standard for these things? I'll add in a reference to inflation for the time being... Krapp 11:00, 30 October 2006


 * The wikistandard is to relay what the media reports, not to put our own spin on things. Even Hollywood rankings regularly don't take inflation into account unless the list specifically states "adjusted for inflation"; the top-grossing Hollywood film of all time is Titanic on virtually all mainstream lists, but Gone with the Wind if inflation comes into play. It's legitimate to note both types of ranking, but it's certainly not the case that "adjusted for inflation" is the standard in box office rankings. Bearcat 18:41, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Why isn't the Red Violin here? It was nominated at the Oscars for best foreign film. Also, on the list of greatest soundtracks, it is not even mentioned as one of Canada's greatest. Canking 14:22, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

What's wrong with Canadian cinema?
"In many Canadian cities, in fact, moviegoers do not even have the option of seeing such films, as they are not shown at any theatres"

It's hard to find a Canadian film if there IS no Canadian film to go to. NorthernThunder 19:54, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

The section has no sources cited and when someone adds a source it gets deleted. I posted a variation on this whenever I peruse the page:

Canada tends to make films that do not reflect popular genres such as action-adventure, science fiction or fantasy while being an active consumer of such works. This phenomenon extends into literature and radio thus contradicting the oft-heard claim that Canada lacks the finances for such efforts. Financial restrictions have not stopped Australia or New Zealand from producing low budget thrillers or popular fare that has been received well both domestically and abroad, such as the Mad Max films. David Cronenberg addressed this phenomenon in the 1987 CBC documentary Long Live the New Flesh: The Films of David Cronenberg. The Canadian journalist Robert Fulford decried the content of Cronenberg's Shivers in the pages of the national magazine Saturday Night. This criticism is believed to have led to backlash against the production of canadian genre film.

This isnt opinion--it is fact if you research it (as well as Canadian literature and radio). Check the history of Canadian film or watch the documentary on Cronenberg mentioned and you will see that this is confirmed-he refers to the difficulty he had getting funding because the funding heads felt that Canada should only do slice of life films about daily life in the Maritimes.

The webmaster of Canuxploitation is very knowledgeable on the subject of Canadian film and his site confirms this view. At least delete some of the other entries that do not provide any sources for their opinions. The "cultural cringe" theory should at least include the issue of a lack of popular genre fare if this point doesn't merit a "*" of its own. A lack of well made popular subject matter (and or the promotion of it) is a problem in Canadian cinema.

Projectionist
How much does a projectionist make in Canada? I know its low pay in America but does that also include Canada? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sniper 99 (talk • contribs) 23:59, 26 March 2007 (UTC).

... indeed. also, how much is popcorn in Canada? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.32.51.156 (talk) 05:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Improving article
The article has a fairly grim tone, and seems fixated with comparisons with the United States cinema and the impact of Canadians within that, rather than focusing on domestic Canadian films. I'll try and gather some sources to improve it.Lord Cornwallis (talk) 00:40, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Title
Why is this article called Cinema of Canada, when it is so deliberately American-centric? NorthernThunder (talk) 21:47, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Suggested Resource
I'd like to suggest adding Canadian Film Online (http://film.athabascau.ca/) as an External Link. Any objections? --Staticred (talk) 20:55, 3 May 2012 (UTC)