Talk:Cinema of Korea/Archives/2012

Further information
Contemporary culture of North Korea has a bit on cinema in North Korea. Kokiri 11:21, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Wow, whoever wrote this article is extremely biased in that they are not giving accurate facts and most of the "information" is based on opinion. Also whoever wrote this does not understand Korean Currency. If you take the top box office hit of all time...It is roughly 13,000,000 tickets sold. Multiply that by the highest ticket price of 13 dollars for it being digital 3D, (which it was not) the total gross would be 170,000,000. How does this exceed Titanic, Matrix, or even Transformers??? The gross is based on Korean money being equal to the US dollar, which it is not. AND the movie being 3D ticket price. NO college or student discounts...Weekend Price. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.250.60.238 (talk) 09:12, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

North Korea animation
Does Disney really source animation to North Korean studios??

-- here, here, and de:SEK_Trickfilmstudio SpiceMan 20:57, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

then i'd have to say that phrasing of that section is very misleading...it implies that SEK was the main producer of those Disney movies

Division of North and South Korea
Although I understand by "Korean Cinema" one usually would think of lumping the two together, I think it would be appropriate to have a page for each section. While both countries have relatively robust film industries, they vary considerably in both quality and content. Any thoughts on how to make this work?

Name
Cinema of [Country] seems like the popular way of naming such articles, yet Cinema of Korea is the redirected page.
 * I put it up at requested moves since Cinema of Korea exists and has a page history. - Bobet 01:15, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

 * Korean cinema → Cinema of Korea – per Naming conventions (categories). - Bobet 01:10, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Voting

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 * Support The original guideline cited applies to categories, so it isn't neccesarily relevent here, but Naming conventions (country-specific topics) also says that article names should be of the form "(topic) of (country)".—jiy (talk) 18:40, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that, I figured I could quote the same reasoning that was behind moving the similarly named category since I didn't find the part you pointed to in WP:NC quickly enough. - Bobet 15:30, 9 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Support per jiy's comment! --Lox (t,c) 15:31, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Moved. &mdash; Nightstallion (?) 09:14, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

East Asian cinema
Hi. I created the East Asian cinema template and the associated article and would like to request some input on that article from the people who've worked on the various cinema articles for countries in the Far East / East Asia, including the "Cinema of Korea" article. I think it would be worthwhile to expand the East Asian cinema article cos it's quite perfunctory at present, but I don't have the time to research each country's output as thoroughly as I'd like and I don't want to simply rewrite what you already have here. I tried putting up a request for expansion but little has happened.

My intention was to focus on the Western experience of East Asian cinema - particularly focussing on the impact and influence of the movies, directors, stars and film styles from the Far East on European and American audiences. This would include the increasing popularity of Eastern films in the West, especially box office, video & DVD market successes, but also cult figures and genres. It should also include information about collaborations and crossovers by Eastern and Western film makers.

Because of it's wider focus, the East Asian cinema article should ideally have synopses of the film industries of each East Asian country, but not just simple reiterations of what already exists in a more substantial form here.

I'm sure some users may disagree with my some of my ideas here, or have a better structural approach as to how the article should be expanded and evolve. That's cool - all I want is to make the article encompass as much scope as possible and to be a worthy place to group these diverse film cultures together. Each country should be represented, so I realise that using my intended focus may skew the article in favour of the larger industries of Hong Kong, China and Japan, which may be unwise. Anyway, any help on the East Asian cinema article would be appreciated.

Cheers, Gram 00:45, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Korean Movies
What about The Way Home and 301/302? Great movies! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.166.71.247 (talk • contribs) 18:50, 7 September 2006

Korean Cliches
While I entirely agree with the article that most Hollywood cinema is rife with cliche and other forms of lack of creativity, I don't think an article on Korean film can ignore the fact that most of Korean cinema also is centered around tried and true, hackneyed themes that are only slightly different from Hollywood's. There is the "Gangster" genre, for instance, with sub-genre Gangster-Comedy and Gangster-Drama, there is the high school comedy (and sometimes dra-medy like My Boss, My Hero), baseball bat-fights and three-stooges style physical abuse figuring prominently in all of the above forms, the ajumma/schoolgirl/unwanted woman who proves everyone wrong and wins the day, and the Korean war film (with many revisions of Japanese horror films complete with long black hair hanging in the face of ghosts). I enjoy much of Korean cinema, but it has to be admitted that it is not very original either and the reason it is popular in the world isn't because it is so "creative", but because its cliches are different (and quaint) than those of the west.

tre.fire —Preceding undated comment was added at 00:00, 18 November 2008 (UTC).

Further Information
Success of Avatar: 'Avatar' rewrites Korean box office history, Korea Herald --Dr. Crisp (talk) 12:30, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Lenin quote
It said "Kim Il Sung believed in the message of the quote attributed (probably falsely) to Lenin: "Cinema is the most important of all arts." The cite was from a book by Johannes Schonherr about North Korean cinema. I actually found in the Marxists Internet Archive that it is true. Their note on "Directives On the Film Business" (Lenin) said that Lenin himself said it in addition to what someone wrote in their memoirs. I fixed it so that it both are cited, and "probably falsely" is removed. Can we get a definitive judgement on this? Commissarusa (talk) 20:48, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Multiple issues
There are multiple issues across the article, including the use of peacock terms and original research that compromises NPOV presentation.

For example, an unsourced commentary in the Cinema_of_Korea section has all the issues together:

"Many Korean films reflect the Korean peoples' suffering due to division and longing for reunification.That reflects the true feelings of Korean peoples."

The article is sprinkled with such examples. It needs to get trimmed to increase encyclopedic quality.--69.113.53.96 (talk) 18:25, 4 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I started to do some POV/peacock cleanup. I also edited the dates on the Korean War section to reflect the actual dates of the Korean War. PaintedCarpet (talk) 08:30, 12 August 2011 (UTC)