Talk:Cinnamon Trust

Conflict of Interest edit request

 * What I think should be changed (include citations):

The Cinnamon Trust is a charitable organization founded in 1985 by Averil Jarvis MBE. Dedicated to supporting older and terminally ill individuals in maintaining their bonds with pets, the trust has become a vital resource for those facing challenges in caring for their animals due to health issues or other circumstances.


 * Patrons
 * Virginia McKenna
 * Paul McCartney

Averil Jarvis established The Cinnamon Trust in response to the growing need for assistance among individuals who found themselves contemplating separation from their pets due to health-related limitations. The trust's founding principles centred around the belief that the companionship of animals significantly contributes to the emotional and mental well-being of their owners.

The name "Cinnamon Trust". Averil Jarvis MBE, the founder of The Cinnamon Trust, named the organization in memory of her own beloved Corgi, Cinnamon. The choice of this name reflects the personal connection and emotional significance that animals, and particularly Cinnamon, had in Averil Jarvis's life.

"Peace of mind and practical help for people – love, care and safety for pets"

The Cinnamon Trust's mission is to enable individuals to stay with their pets for as long as possible. The organization achieves this through a range of services:

1. Practical Voluntary Help The trust boasts a dedicated network of over 20,000 volunteers who provide practical assistance, including dog walking, pet transportation to veterinary appointments, and short-term fostering.

2. Short Term Foster Care Temporary fostering is arranged when owners face situations such as hospitalization or care admission, allowing pets to receive a home from home placement until reunification is possible.

3. Long Term Foster Care In cases where an owner passes away, leaving their companion behind, The Trust finds lifelong foster homes and supports the pet forever more in foster care. The Trust cover the vet bills for any pet placed through their Pet Profiling service for the life of the pet.

4. Animal Sanctuary  The Cinnamon Trust has two animal sanctuaries that house bereaved pets of those who have passed away or moved into care after making provisions with The Trust. In circumstances where pets have additional needs making them difficult to foster with the average person, they have 2 sanctuaries staffed 24/7 with animal care experts that love and care for the pets for the remainder of their life. Poldarves in the original sanctuary based in Breage, Cornwall. Hillside is the 2nd sanctuary based in Lewdown, Devon.

The Cinnamon Trust's impact extends beyond the prevention of unnecessary separation. By fostering a sense of companionship and continuity, the organization has significantly improved the lives of countless individuals and their pets since 1985.

For factual accuracy, information in this article is sourced from the official website of The Cinnamon Trust: cinnamon.org.uk.


 * Why it should be changed: To add a lot of much needed detail and context to the Wiki which is currently only a couple of sentences long. This has been provided by the copy on the charity website.

KyleTCT (talk) 09:18, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Reply 13-NOV-2023

 * Hi Kyle and thanks for your request. Taking a look at your proposal, it looks as if most of the information here is sourced by the charitable trust itself. While we can definitely use the charitable trust as a source for some of this information, Wikipedia would largely prefer using sources that originate from outside of the trust, preferably reliable, independent secondary sources.
 * If you're able to locate some references that meet that definition, that would be most helpful. To help you locate these, I've placed several links below this text that you can click on that will take you to various search engines that can help you find acceptable sources. If you have any questions about this or need any other assistance please don't hesitate to ask. Thank you! Regards, Spintendo  10:34, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I've added the infobox to the article, as it contains mostly non-controversial information. The logo that was requested to be added along with it was not included however. The information for that logo was entered incorrectly on Wikimedia. The license that was activated for the logo stated that the COI editor was the logo's author, which is not likely the case. To add this logo to the article, the COI editor should reupload the logo to Wikipedia using WP:FUW, taking care to ensure that the correct non-free use license is used, and that proper attribution of the author is made within that license.  Regards,  Spintendo  19:25, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I looked up the trust, and wasn't able to find very much coverage. I added a few sources, and swapped out the poor coverage that was there, but what I found doesn't show that the organization is notable enough to meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. This is in no way meant to denigrate the work the charity is doing, but I doubt this would survive a deletion discussion. Also, there's no chance that the organization's mission statement will make it into the article without independent sourcing that suggests it's also a notable thing. Few mission statements are, and with Wikipedia, they usually only serve to turn the article into an advertisement. I'm marking this as declined to keep the queue short, but you can reopen the request if you can rewrite your request to only include notable, properly sourced, and unpromotional info.  STEM info  (talk) 00:24, 14 November 2023 (UTC)