Talk:Citizen Weather Observer Program

Better picture and caption?
The picture of the home WX station makes it difficult to see the various sensors and apparatus. At first glance, a tall mast is seen with anemometer atop. Other than that, cars, homes and clutter, hiding other (significant) apparatus. Can we find or take a better picture?

Additionally, the caption for the picture reads, "A CWOP home weather station." Seems too specific, as a "Home weather station" need not be a CWOP member/contributor, or "station"...and that station is much like any other home station. To most people, that's just a weather station. :-) spelunkster (talk) 21:26, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * First, regarding the actual photo: It meets the siting standards, anemometer as high as possible (ideally 10 meters) with other instruments at the 4-5 foot level. A closer view would lose some sensors unless it was looking straight up from the ground. That might be better; I can look into that, though different manufacturers will look different.
 * Second, regarding the caption: CWOP stations are private stations, generally located on private personal property (i.e., at a home, as shown), which, while possibly comsisting of a variety of technologies, are (supposed) to meet certain siting standards, and which provide the observed data to the national CWOP network. That *IS* what the photo shows. Some home weather stations don't meet the standards and while they might be in CWOP, perhaps shouldn't be; other weather stations are not CWOP stations. Since there is a separate article on automatic weather stations, there is no need for a more general description of the photo.
 * Third, the CWOP elements are visible in the photo. Any other components are not CWOP. How do I know this? Well, its mine. Famartin (talk) 21:35, 30 March 2015 (UTC)


 * In many regards, you're preaching to the choir. You see, there are myriad of apparatus that makes an AWS, an actual CWOP station. Such as the APRS(-IS) medium, bridge devices/software, 2-meter rig, DigiPeater, etc. I don't see any of that in the photo (which would be difficult to depict anyway), and my point is that it looks to the normal observer (no pun intended), like an AWS rather than a CWOP station. Without APRS and the components that support it, there *is* no CWOP. How do I know this? Well, I'm a ham radio operator who has contributed WX data to the APRS network, well before APRS-IS made it easy for the non-hams, And no one is questioning your siting ;-) In fact, I applaud yours. Maybe a disclaimer in the caption is in order? E.g."APRS(-IS) apparatus not shown." spelunkster (talk) 19:20, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

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Update needed re: FindU server services
From emails from Steve Dimse: "Findu is end of life. Sometime this week NOAA will begin taking the feed of CWOP stations directly, bypassing findU…. There is only a single findU server at this point and it is very brittle, rebooting itself and dying regularly. I do not have the time or energy's to keep it up. I will restart it when someone notifies me of a problem …, but at some point something will die beyond repair, and it will go away." "APRS.fi has the data, and some weather display methods, and the data is available from MADIS though only raw data and not easily." 50.47.151.13 (talk) 18:18, 1 April 2023 (UTC)