Talk:Citrine (mineral)

citrine fortz
I have no idea where this name came from, it's not quoted in any of the primary references, the only references to it on Google appear to be, or are likely to have been, quoted from this page.

More specifically, it is not mentioned on mindat.org, it's not mentioned in Hey's Mineral Index (3rd Edition) by A.M.Clark, it's not mentioned in the Glossary of Obsolete Mineral Names (P.Bayliss), or Glossary of Mineral Synonyms by J. de Fourestier.

Whether it's meant to mean "false citrine", perhaps in connection to the fact that 99% of commercial citrine is artificially created by heat-treating low-grade amethyst, or whether it's because the word 'fortz' is (apparently) yiddish for fart, we'll never know.

I'm going to remove it now, if anyone wants to put it back in PLEASE list a primary reference that hasn't just taken it from Wikipedia. --Jolyonralph (talk) 12:37, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

bad references
I was also suspicious of the following:

Brazil is the leading producer of naturally mined citrine, with much of its production coming from the state of Rio Grande do Sul.

Firstly, as far as I know the vast majority, if not all, citrine exported from Rio Grande do Sul is heat-treated Amethyst. Practically every specimen sold in shops and on ebay is created in this way. There are people with vested commercial interests who would prefer people believed it was natural. So. I checked the reference given, and it gives NO information at all about the mining of Citrine in Rio Grande do Sul. I am going to remove the reference and the words 'naturally mined'.

Other references to this 'gemstone.org' article (which to be fair is a reasonably accurate article) don't seem to tie up with the facts as mentioned - the article doesn't mention that citrine was regarded as protection against snake venom, for example. Either the article has been considerably rewritten since it was quoted from, or someone has given the wrong reference for their facts.

I'll edit now. --Jolyonralph (talk) 12:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

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Substituted at 11:47, 29 April 2016 (UTC)