Talk:City University of New York/Archives/2015

The Macaulay Honors College University Scholars Program
This was supposed to be a free standing college affiliated with CUNY but is now a program. Bureaucratic infighting has reduced this grand concept to minor program status. How it can be listed above CUNY's great colleges is beyond me, but some clarification is required to point out that it's not a college, it's a program. The city's best students are being lured to this program. They need to know that this program's longevity is thus in doubt, and perhaps most important, that when submitting for graduate school, they must indicate the college they attend NOT Honors College - there's no "Honors College" choice when it says "indicate your college." That is, graduate will see you as Queens College not Honors College. (Some say calling it a college is fraud and are considering legal action.) Tomlzz1 (talk) 03:41, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I appreciate this comment (even 7 years later), but it's unclear how this pertains directly to the article itself. WiiAlbanyGirl (talk) 16:28, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

merge
This should not be merged with CCNY, as CCNY is a school of CUNY, and deserves its own page just like Hunter Collge and John Jay College. 192.76.183.131

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This should be combined with the City College of New York article, as they appear to be one and the same.

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CCNY is now part of (but not the whole of) CUNY. They should be kept separate.

trustees
The City University is governed by the Board of Trustees composed of 17 members, ten of whom are appointed by the Governor of New York, and five by the Mayor of New York City."

Where are the other two from? Pyrop 17:51, Jul 16, 2004 (UTC)

One is the chair of the university’s student senate; and one is the chair of the university’s faculty senate. ~ IMP

Looking at the current Course catalog for Lehman College, I count 19 board members (undergraduate bulletin, 2005-2007, ppg. 190). We need some clarification on this point.
 * If you look here on the CUNY administration's website you can see there are only 17. Wl219 21:00, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Compare the website with the Lehman catalog, who are the 18th and 19th? Wl219 21:01, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

notables
How about a section on notable graduateAsyouare405 01:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)


 * There currently is a category for "City University of New York people" that includes articles to notable faculty, admins, and alumni. Wl219 03:13, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

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cunychancellor.com
OK everyone, it's time to settle this once and for all. This website has been linked multiple times to the CUNY article, and then deleted multiple times. We should come to a final consensus on this. Wl219 00:05, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Sophie Davis vs. CUNY Medical School
The Sophie Davis School of Biomedical Education is not considered a separate school from The City College by the CUNY Board of Trustees and, therefore, should not be listed as a separate entity under CUNY. The full name of the program is The Sophie Davis School for Biomedical Education at The City College of New York. Also, referring to this program as "CUNY Medical School" is frowned upon by the University.


 * Nowhere in the CUNY article does it refer to Sophie Davis as "CUNY Medical School" even though its website IS http://med.cuny.edu. Furthermore, I disagree that it should not be listed separately. You can see here that Sophie Davis is counted as one of CUNY's 23 constituent institutions, even if it is on CCNY's campus. Wl219 03:39, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * "CUNY Medical School" is an alias used by the School itself and, in part, by the public. The University frowns on the usage of this alias when referring to Sophie Davis. In addition, there are twenty campuses (20): 11 senior colleges, 6 community colleges, The Graduate Center, The School of Journalism and CUNY Law School. The School for Professional Studies is part of the Graduate Center and, thus, NOT a separate campus. The Macauly Honors College incorporates seven senior colleges into the program and, thus, should NOT be considered a separate campus. Also, Sophie Davis may have been considered, at some point, a separate academic unit from CCNY, but there have been assurances from the Chancellery that Dr. Stanford A. Roman, Dean of the Sophie Davis School for Biomedical Education reports directly to Dr. Gregory H. Williams, President of The City College. For further information, please contact Central Administration for a more definitive answer on this matter.Grkp511 22:47, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * The question isn't how many campuses CUNY has, but how many constituent entities it has. On the CUNY website, it's 23, including Sophie Davis as a separate entity. (See .) As I said before, nowhere in the Wikipedia article for CUNY is Sophie Davis called "CUNY Med School," so that part of your concerns are totally irrelevant. If you want to establish for clarity purposes that Dean Roman reports to CCNY President Williams, please provide a source for it (official statement, press release, transcript of a board meeting, etc.). The responsibility is on you to provide the source, not for the reader to go fishing for it. (See WP:SOURCE.) Wl219 23:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)


 * While I am not 100% sure if the Dean reports directly to President Williams (though I believe that's the case), as a former member of the Undergraduate Student Government (USG) of CCNY, I know for sure that within USG there is a bio-med delegation of senators elected every April by students of Sophie Davis. And this can also be verified by checking the minutes and election records of the USG. Furthermore, Article II Section 1 of the CCNY Governance Charter and Article II Section 1 Subsections 1.2 and 1.3 of the USG Bylaws make it very clear that only a school or division of City College is entitled to senatorial representation in the USG. Even though Sophie Davis has their own sort of "student governments", but for all intent and purposes, they are registered clubs under the jurisdiction of the USG.  While the final say certainly lies with the CUNY Board of Trustees as to the status of Sophie Davis, concluding from the above facts, it's safe to say that Sophie Davis is part of CCNY.  The CCNY Governance Charter and USG By-laws can be found at the USG website www.ccny.cuny.edu/usg  =)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.120.179.93 (talk) 11:15, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Correction to CCNY's name
At least in the period before CUNY was created, CCNY officially meant the "College of the City of New York," not "City College of New York." Similarly, the official name of New York City is actually the "City of New York."

It may be beneath Wikipedia's dignity to include this, but I've heard that the large Jewish presence resulted in a joking explanation of CCNY as "Circumcised Citizens of New York." Dynzmoar (talk) 11:56, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Open Admissions
I understand that this may be a sensitive subject, but this article seems to tip-toe around linking the open admissions policy with CUNY's subsequent decline in prestige in the 1970's and 1980's and the dip in enrollment (particularly of "middle class students") during this same time period. It's not quite a weasel word, but it's sort of a sin of omission, no? HandsomeSam57 (talk) 23:48, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Updating History Section
I work for Rubenstein Communications and I propose the following updates on behalf of CUNY. To mitigate conflict of interest issues, I ask that an editor review the edits and take them live, as they see fit. If no objections are had and no edits are made within three days, I will go ahead and update the entry myself. NinaSpezz (talk) 19:02, 15 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Integrated proposed updates into the article. NinaSpezz (talk) 15:16, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Adding Newly Appointed Chancellor
I work for Rubenstein Communications and propose the following update/addition to the very end of the History section on behalf of CUNY. I ask that an editor review the edits and take them live accordingly. If no objections are had and no edits are made within four days, I will go ahead and update the article myself. Nyakushev (talk) 16:27, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Updated page. Nyakushev (talk) 20:51, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

The CUNY SPH should be a separate page
There is no reason for the CUNY SPH to be merged into this page. It is its own separate entity, with its own staff, administration, appointed professors, and a Dean. It is accredited by CEPH as an individual entity with four main consortial CUNY campuses (Re: Lehman, Brooklyn, Hunter, and the Graduate Center). I plan on starting this article this weekend. I don't recall how to turn off merging of other articles into one parent article (I'm rusty).

Comments welcome for/against making a separate CUNY SPH article. (I feel it's beyond overdue).

Also, help in how to turn off the redirect of CUNY School of Public Health into this page would be helpful.

Thanks! WiiAlbanyGirl (talk) 21:59, 2 April 2015 (UTC)