Talk:Civics/Archive 1

Needs serious cleanup
This article seems very unfocused and messy (especially compared to other political articles), and so I tagged it for cleanup. &mdash; Stevie is the man!  Talk 18:09, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I will do some clean-up over the next few days. I am still very new to Wikipedia, but I'll stick to established norms as I best understand them. If I step on anyone's toes, I apologize in advance. --Darth Smurf (talk) 07:19, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Taking The Class
So I know this is a very interesting atricle, but I have one question. I am taking Civics next year as part of a required corse and I was looking for some more information on what the class will cover. Does anyone have any ideas?? Thanks!! LILLYofTHEsouth 22:06, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup by Structuring
LILLYofTHEsouth would appear to be a US high school student, otherwise she could consult a published syllabus for the course in question. At one time Civics was a requirement in the U.S. (when its motto was still E Pluribus Unum) but today it would be considered quaint. In any case such a syllabus should provide ideas for a structure/outline which is the thing this article needs. Current content should fit within it. Lycurgus 08:30, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating
This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 03:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd Like to remove Minarchy
As far as I can tell, minarchy is a form of libertarianism and does not need it's own definition here. Case in point: Jargon Database. I'd like to remove it. --Darth Smurf (talk) 05:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

my question, who is the father of civics? too hard huh? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.28.162.52 (talk) 09:48, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

What are "momuds"?
I can find no reference to this term other than this article. Asequer (talk) 19:03, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Chávez as dictator example?
Regardless what you think about some of his policies, surely it is a grave mistake to place Chávez among Mussolini, Stalin and Hitler? I've heard a lot of talk about Venezuela becoming "less democratic", especially from American government sources. Even if that is true, which I have my doubts about, "less democratic" does not mean "dictatorship". I don't think Venezuela or Chávez belong as examples in the dictatorship box. -mirshafie —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mirshafie (talk • contribs) 16:50, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Any democracy requires elections?
One sentence in the first subsectino reads:
 * Of special concern are the choice of a form of government and (if this is any form of democracy) the design of an electoral system and ongoing electoral reform.

I am not sure that every democracy requires elections. Elections are only necessary if there is a division of labor, so that a particular role will have to be occupied by some person or group of people, and so the society must decide who this will be. Arguably, "voluntary association", for example, does not require elections. -Pgan002 (talk) 06:58, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Monarchy as minimal hierarchy?
Section 1.1, "Examples of different types", lists Monarchy as having a minimal hierarchy and trist in civic institutions, less than libertarianism and democracy. How is that? It also correctly list constitutional monarchy and absolute monarchy as requiring a lot of trust in civic institutions, almost as much as dictatorship. -Pgan002 (talk) 07:03, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Differential
"Differential - Difference in practical application of law and its constructs based on biased societal factors, such as wealth, power, and national influence/stature."

Can someone please reword this sentence... I have read it several times and can't figure out what the hell it means --Sysys (talk) 05:47, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I've removed that example since it appears to have been added as some sort of joke. DeanBrettle (talk) 04:24, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Apolitical
Civics has nothing to do with politics. The fields have been intertwined due to a possible misunderstanding in applying law and ethics to a candidate's personal beliefs as to how to govern, but citizenship is not condusive to whether or not one adheres to a political body.

I suggest removing the 'Politics' infobox and possibly replacing it with 'Law'.Journalbug (talk) 06:48, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

December 2014 Cleanup request
While the topic is not very difficult to understand, the article's sentences are so long and densely packed with information that readers are likely to become confused. This article needs to be rewritten, expanding dense sentences into paragraphs for better clarity and accessibility. --Skr — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.170.224.226 (talk) 20:20, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Proposed new Section Definition
English witionary defines Civics as "The study of good citizenship and proper membership in a community." Where as merriam-webster dictionary defines civics as "the study of the rights and duties of citizens and of how government works." Where as definition from dictionary.com is "the study or science of the privileges and obligations of citizens."

Mahitgar (talk) 05:40, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Proposed new section, Thought, philosophy, and different approaches to Civics education
Pl feel free to contribute to this prposed section

Mahitgar (talk) 16:53, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

New proposed section : 'Related concepts'
Pl. feel free to add info in this proposed new section

Mahitgar (talk) 16:54, 29 June 2017 (UTC)