Talk:Civilian Public Service

Boxing?
Does anyone find it curious that boxing was practiced in camps largely composed of conscientious objectors?68.116.99.140 20:42, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * A little, but it was more common in that era to teach young men to box as a basic form on exercise. My understanding is that most of the stigma attached to the sport was developed by the next generation. --Ahc 02:46, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Indeed, it was a very common physical education sport in that era. Also, amateur boxing is general about scoring points, not knocking your opponent unconscious like in prize fights. Surv1v4l1st (Talk 03:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

My father served in CPS. He was also an amateur boxer and played semi-pro football. Being a CO is not about shunning physical competition. It's about intent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Str8dg (talk • contribs) 08:32, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Possible missing word?
The sentence associated with reference #29 is:

It's a strange way to state that they would have happily volunteered, even had they known the difficulty of the exercise, but it'd be a very natural way to state that they would NOT have volunteered for the project had they fully understood it. The reference appears to be to a book which I do not possess; can anyone check it? Jouster (  whisper  ) 17:00, 16 December 2007 (UTC)


 * This appears to be caused by conflicting sources. The not was removed here, which disagrees with either the Gingerich or Keim source of the original statement. ✤ JonHarder talk 02:02, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I have removed this particular sentence. It is not significant to the article and it would be difficult to concisely represent and document the variety and complexity of the participant's later responses. ✤ JonHarder talk 14:02, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Slavery?
Isn't this whole concept a 13th Amendment issue? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.6.59.39 (talk) 14:26, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No. CPS was an alternative to the military draft. The Supreme Court ruled some years ago that the draft is constitutional. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 14:29, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

This WAS slavery. My father was in the CPS camps, and he would complain that they were paid about $2.00 or $2.50 a month (from the Quakers, not the Federal Government). The German POWs in America were paid $0.10 an hour for their work, but not a cent was paid by the U.S. Government for work done by American COs. They served their country during WWII, but do they receive Veterans benefits for this, NO. This was slavery, pure and simple. The Supreme Court allowed slavery until the 1860s, and the U.S. Constitution was written with the implicit acceptance of slavery. So much for the rule of law. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.180.76.39 (talk) 15:13, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Low wages beats getting shot at. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:41, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

GA Review #2
Transcluded from Talk:Civilian_Public_Service/GA2. Placing on hold for up to a week for editors to address. Jclemens (talk) 16:12, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Note: Please update this article. The week given on hold for time to make improvements has expired. Jclemens (talk) 18:34, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Per conversation on his talk page, the nominator is out of town. I will be out of town for a few days as well, so leaving this in hold status for an additional week. Jclemens (talk) 07:13, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Further Reading?
Any thoughts about adding a short 'Further Reading' section? There are a number of good books published about the CPS. Surv1v4l1st (Talk 00:05, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

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