Talk:Claas Relotius

undue or not?
Some text was deleted with the following explanation. ''A non-English source of uncertain provenance doesn't suffice. In addition, this is WP:UNDUE detail.''

When the event happens not to be a British journalistic fraud but a German one, then the sources of course can be in some other language than English. The provenance is by no means uncertain by just saying so. The fraud was of egregious calibre, so the undue part is neither due here. No problem though, there are now sources in English explaining the quite exotic features of this event. I'm not going to edit war. So somebody else could write them reading maybe first what the two people from Fergus Falls found out, before Der Spiegel fired Relotius and published a large story onthe matter. --2001:14BB:410:44DA:D0C5:D7EB:4FA8:39D1 (talk) 20:51, 22 December 2018 (UTC)


 * It might make sense to move much of the content to a separate article about the Der Spiegel published serial journalistic fraud, since Relotius hardly reaches any wikisignificance without that incident. Biographies don't have room for detailed stuff on this. --2001:14BB:410:44DA:3C0D:542C:6D03:DACF (talk) 18:16, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

Warning
So, just to warn you guys, there were some users in the german version of this article that were trying to manipulate the article for quite some time. for instance changing the tone, the sub-meanings, exchanging words, using euphemisms, you name it, the complete programme. for those of you who are able to read german (or are willing to use some translating-app), please check out these news pieces [2 ] or the Talk/Discussion-page. I think that it is quite likely that they (whoever they are) will try to manipulate / influence this article as well, so we should be carefully looking into every edit. --LH7605 (talk) 15:48, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

not only us-related articles
The german version of the article has a list of more than sixty stories fabricated by Relotius, and it is important to see how he worked. He got some information about a part of the world where it would be difficult or expensive to do research. Then he wrote an article in accordance to mainstream prejudices. Not necessarily about the USA, but some blatant lies about the war in Syria, Albanian blood-feuds etc. Basically, Relotious is a story-writer, not a journalist (nice version, could also call him a pathological liar.) 185.109.153.2 (talk) 09:45, 21 January 2020 (UTC)