Talk:Clariion

Updated the CX-3 series info.. :D SirFozzie 02:30, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Isnt the table for the CX3 UltraScale series faulty? For those that have access to the EMC powerlink's pages, it is stated the the series consist of 2 SPS's rather than 4 as stated.
 * Looking at the installation guide of a CX3-80, this is indeed true. The cabinet has two SPSs and requires two power sources, unless the current needed exceeds 24A (in which case four power sources are needed). WhiteTimberwolf 12:48, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Still needs work
Much of this article still reads like a spec sheet/marketing brochure. I cleaned up the first paragraph and got rid of the marketing statements but much work is still needed.

What about the CX3-20, CX3-40, and CX3-80 systems? In fact, the CX3-20/40/80 lines were extended to include a CX3-20i and CX3-20f (iSCSI and FC) label. Skipping from CX300 to CX4-120 seems odd. And don't forget the CX3-10.

Using the tables and listing the maximum capacity is a moving target. The maximum capacity depends on the largest supported HDD. For example, the CX3-20 orginally supported 59TB but now with the refreshed models a CX3-20 supports 83TB. In fact, the original 59TB max capacity was based on 500GB SATA II drives until the 1TB SATAII drives came on the market. While a FLARE update may have been required (I don't recall) the system simply increased its max capacity.

Using max number of drives rather than max capacity, or identifying the max capacity given a specific drive size, would seem better.

Historical significance
It seems the significance of this product line is quite an interesting story which perhaps the facts of this article could better support:


 * 1) Data General was a dying minicomputer company and CLARiiON saved it. The only remnant left of Data General today is CLARiiON. The rest of this once high flying innovator is gone.
 * 2) CLARiiON was a small, under-funded storage project in a company whose DNA was computer systems. The original team had to struggle to get resources and fight for recognition. If not for the efforts of some dedicated individuals there probably would be nothing left of DG. Ironically there were some (perhaps many) in the company that never wanted to sell CLARiiON on the open market becasue they felt it would hurt sales of DG's computer systems (which exclusively offered CLARiiON).
 * 3) Even more ironically, Tom West, the well-known computer systems development 'guru' at DG, who was responsible for much of the 'systems-centric' mindset at the company, took over CLARiiON development, ostensibly because he saw the writing on the wall for servers.
 * 4) EMC bought DG and paid $1.1B. EMC only cared about CLARiiON and perhaps some other technology patents, but really CLARiiON was 99% of the reason for EMC's purchase of the company.
 * 5) EMC's resources and execution have made CLARiiON one of the leading products in the industry today.

This story seems much more noteworthy and historically significant than many of the spec-sheet like notations currently represented. It would be good to have some support from others who may be able to convey these facts more accurately than I can. --Twostardav 23:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

In addition it doesn't mention the marketing history behind the CLARiiON name.

Data General's first minicomputer was called a NOVA. When DG entered the Unix field they brought out a new system which was called the AViiON. The name came from NOVA (in caps & backward) and the number 2 (ii) - hense AViiON.

CLARiiON was the storage product that went with the new generation AViiON hardware and for marketing consistency they named it in the same format with caps & two little i's as CLARiiON. It is not known if there is actually an acronym for what CLARiiON may mean. [D. Cook, March 29/07]

Advert?
Added advert tag; still reads like an advert. Alex 19:30, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Does it still do so now? Please review. Thanks. WhiteTimberwolf 12:48, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

This reads like an advert to me, too. Just looks like lifts from the corporate website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.2.0.92 (talk) 10:27, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

16 GB or 16 GiB?
The article defines 1 GB as 109 B (i.e., 10003 B). It then quotes cache sizes of up to 16 GB, which would mean 16 × 10003 B. Should the cache size read 16 GiB (i.e., 16 × 10243 B)? Thunderbird2 (talk) 19:55, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

memory or cache size?
I think the 4GB "Cache" size on the CX4-120 is the total RAM. On my CX4-120 only 400MB is available for cache. The rest is used by FLAIR and/or the integrated Windows XP OS. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmeden (talk • contribs) 23:12, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

The article confuses the Celerra product line with the CLARiiON product line. CLARiiON did not have data movers or run any Unix-like operating systems to my knowledge. CLARiiON had service processors that ran FLARE. Also, the CX4-960 product line had a max of at least 24 FE ports, and could support at least 4096 HA hosts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.174.243.186 (talk) 17:32, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

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