Talk:Claudia Ciesla/Archive 2

Absolutely agree on that. I guess that she made it on her own.. just check in the internet, she has several webpages and tries to promote herself in this way! If wiki is non-commercial, It has to be deleted!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.179.53.31 (talk) 17:05, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

'''Please protect this article against vandalism. These statements are false and made most probably by the same stalker, who tried to delete this article in English Wikipedia and Italian Wikipedia many times and never succeeded. He is using always exactly the same false arguments, that nobody knows this lady (unless she was published many times and is featered model of BILD - 3d biggest newspaper worldwide). He is working with many fake emails. Please see the former deleting discussions. Further discussion is needless as all was discussed with the same false statements of the Stalker and disproved again and again. Claudia is not only known in Germany but also in many other countries and also in India. Please see her first Fan Page in India: http://www.cclaudia.info/'''. --59.92.110.132 (talk) 19:32, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * A prod nomination is not vandalism. It's readily apparent to anyone what's going on with this article, and it's not winning their position any support, so don't worry about it. --Haemo (talk) 19:37, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Looking at how many times the prod templates has been placed on this article it is bordering on it though. Nevetheless, just remove the tag and ignore it for the rest. This article will never be deleted by the proposed deletion process. Garion96 (talk) 20:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

This interview is a fake!!!!!!!!!!!! It was done with her boss!!! Just check the page!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.181.177.52 (talk) 23:39, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

OK: 1. "CCLAUDIA" was four times in BILD - a kind of yellow press newspaper which is in Germany not even legally anymore entitled to be called "newspaper". It shows every day another half-naked women and a nice story is invented to the pic. The girls there are totally unknown in the country. 2. CClaudia is on this "XING" with another half naked picture. XING is a network with the aim to get as many contacts as possible. To have 1000 there is quite a usual number. YES - very hard to imagine how she got 4750 contacts, when she accepts every man writing to her.....or? ;))) 3. This interview is a fake. It is on the homepage of a smaller casting-agency. This interview is a kind of "self made" one. 4. This FAMOUS series (soap) is an INTERNET ONE (NOT TV). It is SO FAMOUS THAT IT EVEN DOES NOT HAS A WIKI PAGE!!! Everybody can make nowadays his own soap...5. Sorry, but not everybody who thinks that this is not enough for a wiki page, is a freak. I personally dont know her - and I have personally nothing against her. If we take every girl who was in Bild (this newspaper is 60 years old and had every year more than 350 girls in it - we can make an own wiki for babes ;)))) I would ask the administrators (maybe a German one who know that she is a nobody) to delete the page. Its pretty obvious that she misunderstands the sense of wikipedia as an encyclopedia. Wikipedia IS NOT XING and it is NOT A PRIVATE HOMEPAGE for starlets. We do not have to compare our wiki with Britanica - but is there anybody seriously thinking that any encyclopedia would print her name??? PLEASE NOTE: Obviously it will not take long until she herself or/and with a faked user account will reply to this message.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.219.244.145 (talk) 20:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Well known and notability given
Dear "CClaudia-Fan", Why are you giving again false statements?

1.) Claudia was not 4 times but more than 20 times in BILD as Miss MATADOR, as Winner of German Super girl 2006, as World cup Girl of BILD, at publishing her CClaudia Calendar and some more!! If you do not know nothing about this Lady and if you do not know what is BILD pls see Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild and please consider that your blissfully ignorant personal opinion might be different to the opinion of 15 million daily BILD readers in Germany and allover the world.

2.) XING is the biggest Business Networking Site worldwide with about 6 Million members. CClaudia is in XING the member with one of the most requested direct networking contacts of serious Business Men and people from Media and Show Biz (4784) and with the record in XING with the most views to her profile - today 680.025 (daily between 4000 and 6000 new clicks on her profile:

https://www.xing.com/profile/Claudia_Ciesla

3.) The mentioned interview was organized by the very reputed Gessulat Publishing House Munich, Chief editor Mr. Stefan Gessulat who also edited the CClaudia Calender 2008.

4.) And dear friend, You are free to do an internet soap (even with your dog) which is sponsored then with an advertising clip by the reputated German telephone company "Peterzahlt": http://youtube.com/watch?v=OnSe7yKZ7qU

5.) As you do not know nothing about this Lady just let me give you the latest news about her - you can find all this if you go Google (CClaudia or Claudia Ciesla):

a) CClaudia is from 19th of Jan. for about 3-4 weeks in India for an international feature Film-Shooting. The Title is "KARMA" and this film is shooted in South-India. Genre: thriller/drama, Budget: US$ 5 million, this is a reincarnation story and takes place in the Indian mountains, location: india (ooty, wellington, lovedale, coonoor); One of the key roles: linda/played by claudia ciesla

b) CClaudia is Lead for Advertising Clip, produced by dropoutfilms, for one of the biggest Film Equipment Companies in Germany and Europe, pillefilm.de, Mainz, Director of shoot: Daniel Seideneder,

http://www.pillefilm.de/en/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3493RI3jI-g

c) CClaudia as Lead for Pilot Internet/TV-Serial "Drive my Car" shooted on Hockenheim-Ring by Elser-Film Produktion and Arrangement-Entertainment Group, Directors Margrit Elser-Haft, Manfred Auer, pls see:

http://www.myvideo.de/watch/3135659

http://www.cclaudia.net/english/042d0e99c00f15a4a/042d0e9a200aa7902.php#042d0e9a200aa8103

http://next-topmodel.prosieben.de/profil/45147/video/3182

d) Claudia Ciesla in Austria chosen for the Snow Queen 2008, According to publication in glossy-magazine “MOTOR-Freizeit and TRENDS in Austria-Issue Jan 2008 -on 3 full pages, The German model Claudia Ciesla (Model Nick CClaudia) was chosen for the Snow Queen in Austria in the “snow richest village in the World - called Damüls”. In the touristic season 2007-2008 she will represent the snow richest tourist Ski-Village in the World - and will be showing up on various events and promotional appearances, photo shoots for magazines, advertising and brochures and shooting for the magazine “MOTOR-Freizeit and TRENDS “in Austria. See also:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MG1xeRJfm1E

http://www.tiscover.at/at/guide/5,de,SCH1/objectId,IND859465at,curr,EUR,parentId,RGN110608at,season,at2,selBlk,RBLOCKBLK,selElem,BKE1PIZat/intern.html

http://www.casting-agentur.de/?cmd=news.detail&id=1179

http://www.tiscover.at/at/guide/53928at,en,SCH1/objectId,RGN110608at,season,at2,selectedEntry,home/home.html

e) In December 2007- Photo Shoot for Orangedental (one of biggest Dental-Hitech-Companies in Germany) for Advertising, OrangeDental-Calendar 2008, and Promotion in Austria. This was the 3d cooperation with this company.

f) Invited as VIP-Guest star at Europe's biggest Whisky-Festival in Zürich/Switzerland at 6/7 Dec. 2007 by the managing director Mr. Eric Braun. Please see:

http://www.whiskyship.ch/de/home.html

and City-Guide TV: http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid716758756?bctid=1335896083

g) Shooting for Trailer for TV-Advertising Clip for the New-Launching of the Celebrity Magazines "OK!!" in Mannheim with NOSS tv+filmproduktion, Reference: Director Rene von Bodisco

h) Promotion and Modelling at Jacuzzi-Event in Duesseldorf for Jacuzzi-Whirlpools, at Exclusive-Representance "Klara von Nassenstein" in Duesseldorf, Reference Director Patric Triebel

Thank you for taking the time the read this. --59.92.110.132 (talk) 19:22, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

'Actually I totally agree with the author before - this Claudia is just a wanna be star (to say that she is unknown is already too much ;)) ;) But she is very active in updating "wiki page" and probably having one "fan" in India ;) Cheers!! ' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.93.205.42 (talk) 20:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Totally unknown in germany
Sorry folks,

this person is totally unknown in germany. All sources are just made by someone who wants to promote her. In the german part of wikipeadia this would be deleted without any problems. Why not delete it here too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.142.194.63 (talk) 14:22, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * She isn't "totally unknown", although her prominence mostly depends on internet-promotion and moronic tabloid. She is at least an example for successful internet-promotion. Not more, even not less. Carolus Ludovicus (talk) 22:48, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Who is CClaudia???? Maybe I should write a wiki about my dog.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.13.170.2 (talk) 10:10, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

if your dog manages to get 4750 people to actively confirm you as a contact in xing - maybe you then you should. however, think about her whatever you want: if 4750 people confirm they know you and another 670.000 people read (or at least look at) your profile - you are not un-known.


 * I have no doubt that this Article have an conflict of interests. But indication from third party sources is given. She also meets the inclusion guidelines for "internet top models". The concrete reason, why this article was deleted in de.wiki was that at this time the notability was not given. Wikipedia:Löschkandidaten/10. November 2006 (German) "Der Artikel wurde von mir damals gelöscht, weil sie sich an info@wikipedia.de gewendet hat und so die Löschdiskussion vorzeitig beendet wurde. Zum damaligen Zeitpunkt war die Relevanz nicht gegegen (oder die WP hatte noch gewisse Ansprüche?)" Wiki-nightmare (talk) 17:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Fake
Der beste FakeArtikel ever ;D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.76.60.113 (talk) 20:01, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

POV check
Article reads like an advertisement - Article needs to rewrite passages in an neutral language - is this an Article about the Subject Claudia Ciesla or about Playboy Chief Editor, Stefan Gessulat or about The New Indian Express, Auto Bild, Bild, Sat.1, T-Online and Kabeleins... ??? ...it smells like selfpromotion... 145.253.2.238 (talk) 01:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

'''This heading "POV" and the former heading "FAKE" smells also very strong like one of hundrets of destructive posts and vandalizings of Mr. Stalker from Germany who will never give up to try to destroy this article about Claudia Ciesla. Dear Mr. Stalker - plz try to find some new arguments - your recuring old one`s are beginning to be real boring !!'''--80.120.104.109 (talk) 15:03, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Laugh
Interesting discussion (btw. you have 10.000 confirmed contacts at XING once you have sent out 10.000 requests). Interesting claim why a stalker should be responsible for the content here. It's rather that people do not see the point in having such a useless article on Wiki. Where is the knowledge, where the quality, where the benefit for the society. No wonder that there is no entry in the German Wiki, was probably deleted once established. I write an entry about my dog since it's so easy to fill this site with nonsense. -- Tribor (Wiki Germany) 13:30, 24. April 2008 (CEST) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.143.210.150 (talk) 11:33, 25 April 2008 (UTC)