Talk:Cleat (shoe)

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Cleat is a fairly US-centric term. In the UK and Commonwealth I've only ever heard 'stud' for the thing on the bottom of football boots.What do other places use? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.46.32.38 (talk) 12:24, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree, "Cleat" is a term I have never actually heard (in the UK), hence I was looking it up! - Zephyris Talk 08:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Spikes (e.g. Microspikes by Kahtoola), studs, traction devices, grips, pegs, crampons and / or non-technical crampons, etc — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.103.152.52 (talk) 15:11, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Since only spike-type cleats are discussed, and not, for example, the slot cleats formerly used on bicycle shoes, "stud" should be the main title.98.206.86.187 (talk) 15:47, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Can you please make it more obvious if you mean american foot ball or soccer football, it changes lots between the two. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.38.4.206 (talk) 14:05, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

The cleat/stud point is interesting because as someone from the US I wouldn't be able to describe this type of athletic shoe as anything other than cleat. It seems that we both have only one word to describe this item and those words are different. What does Wikipedia usually do in that situation? Perhaps it should be titled Cleat/Peg or something? Or visa versa... I guess the term most recognized by the largest group of English speaking people should be given presidence. I've never really thought of that kind of problem but it is interesting.

Skiingdemon (talk) 23:22, 18 February 2010 (UTC)


 * The 'cleat' term in the footwear field is not used in the British Commonwealth because a 'cleat' is a boat or ship fitting on which you fasten a rope. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.150.11.159 (talk) 23:12, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Cutline
The cutline for the picture at the very beginning of this article is too vague. There should be a modifying word before "surface." I can't think of a word at this moment but it should indicate that cleats help on a surface where they actually sink in. Saying they help you gain traction on a surface creates an "as apposed to what" thought in my mind. What else would one gain traction on? Anyways there should be a word along the lines of "pliable" in front of "surface." The fact that the picture shows the shoes sitting on exactly the kind of surface they wouldn't be useful on adds to the irony of this vagueness. The picture is ok I guess because that surface allows you to see the contours but the cutline needs to be improved to hold up it's part of the bargain.

Skiingdemon (talk) 23:16, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Baseball
Why aren't baseball cleats mentioned in this article? Tad Lincoln (talk) 22:42, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

History
On 4/17/2013 I updated this page with a "History" section, which gives a brief historical overview of cleats. On 4/23/2013 I edited the History section by hyperlinking the appropriate words within the text. This addition is part of an educational assignment. HIST406-13ckuhn (talk) 23:24, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Rugby boots
There doesn't seem like there would be enough information for a full article on Rugby boots. It could be easily merged into the Grass cleats section of this article. Sarahj2107 (talk) 10:03, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Possible edits
Is there more information to be shared on "Australian Rules Football?" All other categories seem to have at least a paragraph. Does the final link in the references usually work or was the web page taken down recently? Could use an update or link to a new site possibly with the same information. Additionally, one of the last sentences in the history section begins "according to researchers" but does not offer a citation. A statement like this may need to be backed up to be considered reliable. 3rd sentence of the American football section requires a capital "I" Willyp15 (talk) 01:31, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Overall, this Wikipedia page does an adequate job of describing cleats and the different variations of these shoes. However, there are some perspectives that are implicitly overrepresented, and some topics that are missing from this entry. Information on cleats is broken down by use type: grass, bicycle, and ice cleats. Primarily, this page emphasizes soccer (in American terms), but uses the term "football" predominantly; other sports are mentioned, but not as much as this game. Therefore, in the grass cleats section, where baseball and rugby are also mentioned, information regarding soccer dominates. Both rugby and baseball need to be represented more on this page. Additionally, the type of cleats mentioned could be expanded to mud cleats (baseball/football) and turf (soccer). Including two more subcategories would add organization to a page looking to differentiate cleats by sport. Australian rules football--a section which only holds three lines of text--should not be included on this page, for it overshadows other countries' specific variations on football. Finally, an issue that could arise in the future revolves around shoe companies. Currently, Adidas is overrepresented for creating "the first modern football boots" and introducing other innovations. Reebok and Puma are also mentioned, but I believe that a page on sports cleats should mention all of the major manufacturers in the industry--including Nike. Any improvements that would address the concerns mentioned above would make this Wikipedia entry more valid.--Crufino1047 (talk) 04:29, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Separate headers
I'm not sure if the way different cleats are grouped now makes the most sense. There are many different considerations for cleats within the grass category, some of which include play on turf, so are grass, bicycle, and ice cleats the best headings to differentiate the types? S.everett19 (talk) 05:27, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

I agree, I would also suggest potentially making subcategories to define the individual types of spikes for cleats as well, transitioning into how each one is utilized for their respective sport. Additionally, I would recommend going into some detail how the cleats and spikes coincide for the most optimal usage on different playing fields, such as grass, turf, dirt, ice, etc. Zach davis 68 (talk) 02:15, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

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Studs not used to describe football boots in British English.
Can you a reference be provided to show that the word ‘studs’ is used in British English to describe the whole shoe in association or rugby football. I have never heard that in my thirty years of playing sports. Nor have I ever seen them described that way. In my experience they’re referred to as ‘boots’. If a reference or references can be provided I’d be happy to look at it. Padraig Costello (talk) 22:21, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Cycling
Cleated shoes were around long before clipless pedals – the cleats featured a transverse slot into which fitted the rear edge of the pedal cage. They were invariably used in conjunction with toe clips and straps. Some track sprinters continued to use them into the 21st century. Mr Larrington (talk) 08:45, 18 June 2022 (UTC)