Talk:Clem (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)

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What Shrouded Man?--Gonzalo84 19:35, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

What?
What happened to the article? I miss Clem. Clem rocked. He deserves an article.

Lots42 13:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


 * It's back - vandalism averted :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 14:02, 12 June 2007 (UTC)


 * No vandalism - I redirected the article because Clem is a minor character whose article does not establish any notability and is nothing more than a plot summary. See WP:NOTE and WP:PLOT.  I like Clem too, but liking something is not good enough reason to have an article for it.  I wasn't aware that the page had been recreated and I have redirected it again.     Paul    730  23:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


 * ? I like Clem -and- think he is noteable enough to deserve an article. Lots42 (talk) 04:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Why is he notable? Being liked by fans isn't notability.  I like Kulak of the Miquot Clan, doesn't mean he deserves an article.  You need sources to be considered notable.  Sources discussing how Clem was concieved, how the character was developed, his role in pop culture, etc etc.  The Clem article had nothing, a bit of plot and original research theorising he was gay.  I'm sure a little out-of-universe info can be found on Clem, but there's no reason it can't be covered on the minor characters list.  Being cool isn't enough to warrant an article.     Paul    730  05:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Christmas! I am -not- saying that being liked is enough to warrant an article. I am saying that I think he warrents a well-written article. I was under the impression the original research about Clem being gay (partly because I deleted it) was looooong gone, but I guess I was wrong. I also thought it had some of what you desired, enough to keep it seperate and to build upon. Lots42 (talk) 10:20, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


 * This was the last version of the page before I redirected it. Once you remove the OR, condense the plot a little, and take away the infobox, there's really not much there.     Paul    730  17:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)