Talk:Cliefden Caves

Multiple Issues
The Article has Multiple Issues


 * 1) It is not written from a WP:NPOV. It seems to have been written predominantly by one person and the aim seems to be to convince the reader that a Dam should not be built at this Location for environmental reasons. In addition, it seems the Caves are located on Private Property and several land owners have a vested interest in the Dams not being built which would destroy their Agricultural land holdings.
 * 2) The Article seems to be mostly a copy-paste from http://www.savecliefdencaves.org.au/ where many of the same sources are also used. It appears there has been little first-hand research in the construction of the Article, the majority of the content is from the aforementioned site.
 * 3) There are enormous blocks of quotes in the Article. These really need to be shortened and referenced instead of quoted ad-verbatim where they add no additional value.

The Article has a low number of irregular contributors so I will continue to attempt to clean-up the Article if there are no responses within a couple of days. PookeyMaster (talk) 05:09, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 * quite possibly, but it still describes the issue and I've added links ... Dave Rave (talk)

What content is appropriate?

 * 1) Refs: I have added refs to Osborne 1978 & Turner 2002. But have NOT provided a link to the PDF of Turner's paper at the Helictite web site. BUT both have location maps, and Osborne has detailed cave maps.  Some people might feel that this a problem. Do people think these papers should be advertised here.  They are both important sources for anyone interested in the details of the cave area.
 * 2) Citations needed: I modified the length given for Taplow, and cited Osborne. If there is a more recent source than Osborne, please indicate it. Someone needs to provide a ref to support the claim of "one of the most cavernous limestone areas". KenG44 (talk) 01:16, 27 June 2014 (UTC)