Talk:Climate change in Mexico

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment
This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 14 January 2020 and 30 April 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Jkwasser, Brmbuck, Eelasher. Peer reviewers: Bbakkal, Rnakovsk, Eb20, Ikigamwa, Evanalst93, Anmramir, I Have No Authority, Gheraly.

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Paris agreement
“Hello! We are three students from the Ecological Effects of Climate Changes course at Uppsala University. We're working on updating the paris agreement in some of the climate change articles as part of our coursework. We're learning and welcome any feedback. “ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bedi7868 (talk • contribs) 12:26, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Suggestions for the article
This article is very well-written. It address most, if not all, of the critical areas such an article should cover. The layout makes sense. My only real critique of this article is the fact that under the “Ecological Responses to Climate Change” section, the section is weighted much more heavily to the ecological effects that climate change is having and will have on animals. There is only one paragraph about a very specific type of forest in terms of the discussion on the ecological effects on plants/non-humans. It would be good to include more information on how things such as other forested areas, rivers, soil biodiversity, etc. have been and will continue to be affected. The one image included is relevant, and it would be nice to see more. The article has an appropriate number and use of citations. I would also make sure to double check whether or not there are any benefits related to the effect of climate change on the agriculture of Mexico. This might be, for example, an extended growing season that allows farmers to grow more of certain crops. This has been seen in certain areas of the world, so it would be good to check for that possibility. Overall, this is a great article so far.Peamarsh (talk) 22:57, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I think the article looks really good! I think breaking up the different animals was a smart idea! I went through and did some small editing for grammar and sentence structure. One area you may want to expand is the Biodiversity section. I assume that because Mexico is a large country with different environments and different biodiversity, maybe find more articles related to this? I think your use of specific numbers and statistics throughout the article is very well done and adds a lot to the article. There are a few sentences on environmental justice throughout the article. Is this maybe a place to expand? It makes sense given the United States and other countries' relationship with Mexico. I also thought about maybe bringing in tourism and its role in climate change? Evanalst93 (talk) 20:39, 30 March 2020 (UTC)Evanalst93
 * I think that the article and the topic are fruitful because they tell stories about current migration from Middle and South America to North America that are related with the impact of Climate Change and human dimensions of it. I think that many indigenous people have been trying to survive from the impacts in South and Middle America. Nevertheless, I consider that the lead section of the article needs classifications. Also, some topics of the article need to be well outlined and supported by more data. I edited some misused words in the article. bbakkal 23:22, 26 February 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bbakkal (talk • contribs)
 * I went through and did some small grammar and sentence structure edits. I also had a thought for the page, does it make sense to merge some of the topics in the Ecological Response? Or maybe create a section on Animals specifically? Just a thought! Overall, it is a very well written entry, neutral tone. Will you be including more citations or actually putting citations in where the author's name is present throughout the text? I also included a larger page title just to make things more clear and also had a few areas where I asked about a citation for the information. Are there indigenous responses to climate change? Could Traditional ecological knowledge be included on this page?Evanalst93 (talk) 21:48, 1 March 2020 (UTC) Evanalst93
 * The content of this paper is well balanced, I think that it has a good tone the is neutral and doesn’t sway too much to convince the reader about climate change in Mexico. Finally, I think that it is well referenced which makes it more reliable. I think this article could be improved by changing the organization a bit which I will make some changes on just as a suggestion. I think that Maize and Coffee even though they are bigger topics could do well as subtopics of Climate change and Agriculture because they fall under that category. I think moving them under there could improve the flow of the article. Like the subcategories under the ecological responses to climate change section. Ikigamwa (talk) 00:17, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I like that you touch on a wide variety of subjects in your introductory paragraph. This provides the reader with a good idea of what topics you will be addressing throughout the article. However, I think you could provide a little more information in the introduction. For example, I think it would be beneficial to add a sentence that elaborates on why Mexico is considered a leader in climate adaptation and mitigation. As I continued reading, I noticed you did not elaborate on this later in the article. This is absolutely a topic you should explore further.

I think the headings throughout the article could be organized in a more logical way. I made some changes to the headings as an example of how you can better clarify the main topics of your article and how they relate to one another. First, I made “Climate Projections” and “Climate Change and Agriculture” mains headings. I classified the information that was originally under “Climate Change and Agricultural” a new section named “General Impacts.” Next, I made “Climate Change and Food, Economic Security” a subheading under “Climate Change and Agriculture” and renamed the section “Economic Insecurity” to avoid redundancy. Additionally, I made a new subheading under “Climate Change and Food” called “Impacts on Specific Exports/Foods.” You may find that one of those words is a better descriptor for the section than the other. I would not recommend keeping both long term. I moved “Maize” and “Coffee” under this section as secondary subheadings. I think these changes make the article feel more cohesive. Lastly, I created an entirely new heading entitled “Global Impacts” to house the information about the effect Mexico’s climate has had on global agricultural trade. This information was originally included under “Economic Insecurity.” Wikipedia encourages writers to create headings as often as possible so readers can more quickly find the information they are searching for. Given this, this information seemed different enough to warrant the creation of a new section. Now both “Global Impacts” and “Economic Security” have a lot more room for additional information. This should be beneficial as both these topics still seem to be quite broad and could encapsulate a lot of interesting information. Currently, I think the first sentences of these sections generally summarize what is to come, but the summary is too general. These topics sentences should provide more of a detailed roadmap for the paragraph/section so the reader can better predict what information will be presented to them. For example, I changed the first sentence under “Economic Security” from “Many people depend on agriculture for employment” to “Climate change has caused many people in Mexico who depend on agriculture for employment to experience economic insecurity.” I made some grammatical changes to the “Maize” section to ensure sentences followed parallel structure. I like that you have described the impacts climate change has on specific foods, like coffee and maize. If you are looking for a place to add more information, I think this would be the perfect spot for it. Finally, I similarly organized some of the headings under the section “Ecological Responses to Climate Change.” I made a new subheading entitled “Impacts on Animals” and created secondary subheadings for “Butterflies,” “Mexican Bats,” “Small Mammals in Tropical Ecosystems,” and “Birds” underneath. I Have No Authority (talk) 01:22, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I’m happy to see that this page is growing. I think there is some good information here. The sections are logical and come together nicely. This page could have tons of information on it and there is a good start here. I think it applies to our class solidly since this topic has the opportunity for this group to incorporate all of the different scales and elements of telecoupling through this analysis of climate change impacts in Mexico and its future. I think this page has some decent images, but it could benefit from a few more if that were possible. I also think the economic insecurity section could use some more information as that will be a sector significantly impacted by climate change. I think this article is solid and is coming together. Best of luck! AbbringAustin (talk) 22:19, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I think that this article is looking great and presents a lot of important information. It’s important for people to be able to see the direct impacts of climate change on their home country and community. I would recommend adding a significant section on the social impacts. This could include talk about heat-related insecurity, climate injustice, social influence on the problem, social response mechanisms, etc. I think that this would only improve the article and create a thorough framework for the sustainability principles: social, ecological, and economic. Eb20 (talk) 00:47, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Looking back at the article after a while it is finishing up really well. My main suggestion would be to move some of the sections for better flow just like editing the writing for clarity. Like I don't think that Climate Projections needs its own section unless there is a lot more information that needs to be added, it could sit well under the climate change and agriculture section as a subsection of the General Impacts. Like Austin said above, I think more images would be really good! Finally, I think expanding on the Ecological Responses with increased focus on ecosystems full ecosystems rather than specific animals could fill out the article really well. Other than it looks good!! Ikigamwa (talk) 22:45, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The introduction is concise and uses clear language, but it is very short. Maybe the incorporation of several other facts about Mexico and climate change could be beneficial, like the differing impact of climate change on its arid regions versus tropical regions. You could touch on the fact that Mexico is one of few countries with these drastically different climates and how this impacts decision making and implementation of policies and practices regarding climate change. There are many issues mentioned in the introduction (water, health, air pollution, traffic disruption from floods, and housing vulnerability to landslides) that are never mentioned again, although they each call for their own section. The finished sections are very well-done and comprehensive. You all made a good use of references and include many statistics. Once again I'd like to highlight how well this article articulates the topic and how well you use your sources. It is a thorough examination and provides readers with lots of context. I think that it would be beneficial to dive into how Mexico compares to the rest of the world. Especially after gathering an in-depth look into the local impacts of climate change, this addition would help to provide global context. Additionally, I would in the future give more context for each section/heading. This articles gives a great overview and I think that it would be helpful to now dive deeper into the subject and provide more language to your article. Fantastic work! Eb20 (talk) 03:21, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * This article is presented very well. I believe that it touches on many of the players that impact climate change in mexico. I do however, believe that there could be some additions that help would benefit this article. I think that this article is lacking data. Statistical data or graphs would be extremely helpful for comparison purposes. With that being said, I think a thorough comparison of climate change in the Mexico to another section of the world would help. You could consider players of climate change in Mexico and compare it to a place very similar and then one of the major players, such as the United States. Rnakovsk (talk) 21:35, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Suggested changes to headings and structure
I suggest to change the headings and structure of this article to be in line with the template that has been proposed here for all articles of the nature "Climate change in Country X": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Climate_change/Style_guide (see also discussion on that page's talk page). Anyone has any objections? If not, who's got time to give it a go? I am slowly working away at this for all the countries but would love some collaborators.EMsmile (talk) 23:45, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I read the comments complimenting the students on the article with great interest. I agree. Interestingly, there was one suggestion for improvement in the organization. Hopefully someone who has already worked on this will see this note, and offer to implement the recommended Headings and Subheadings, so this article is in line with other country-based articles on climate change. I will wait a few more days to see if anyone comes forward who was one of the original authors. It would be much better to have one of the original authors work on reorganizing the information.PlanetCare (talk) 00:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
 * That would be ideal! Hey student editors, did any of you stick around with Wikipedia after the course ended? That would be great. Tagging: User:Jkwasser, User:Brmbuck, User:Eelasher. User:Bbakkal, User:Rnakovsk, User:Eb20, User:Ikigamwa, User:Evanalst93, User:Anmramir, User:I Have No Authority, User:Gheraly.
 * Thank You for reaching out to students. I will wait a few more days to see if any of them would be willing to do this. I think it would only take an hour or so, especially for original authors who are very familiar with the content.PlanetCare (talk) 19:11, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Students may have moved on in their lives, so I will go ahead and restructure using the recommended Headings and Subheadings. Tagging them again to let them know, and to encourage one or more to take a look: User:Jkwasser, User:Brmbuck, User:Eelasher. User:Bbakkal, User:Rnakovsk, User:Eb20, User:Ikigamwa, User:Evanalst93, User:Anmramir, User:I Have No Authority, User:Gheraly See if you're OK with the changes. PlanetCare (talk) 12:39, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Restructuring has now been completed, thanks to PlanetCare. The student editors have not re-appeared on the scene, pity! EMsmile (talk) 14:48, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

More information needed for some Headings recommended by WikiProjectClimateChange
To make this article comparable to other Climate Change in xxCountryxx article, more information is needed for some important topics that were probably not part of the assignment made by the professor. Each "country" article begins with the Heading "Greenhouse gas emissions" and describes practices in that country that contribute to emissions. A second need is for information on "Health impacts." The original article did a very good job on "Adaptation strategies" but a second Heading for "Mitigation strategies" has no information. "Society and Culture" needs more information. What efforts are being made by the general population, NGOs or private enterprises that relate to Climate Change? would the professor consider assigning a future class to build on this article and provide additional information? PlanetCare (talk) 13:53, 12 March 2021 (UTC)