Talk:Climate of Australia

So Where Are the Maps?
There are many references to the various provinces but the maps are tiny and unusable in terms of graphic comparison. By the way, this is nearly a universal wikipedia weakness. Thank you all who are trying to improve this--I appreciate it. homebuilding75.27.225.185 (talk) 03:16, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Renaming of /* Dryness */
I renamed the section Dryness to Moisture, because you don't measure the absence of water you measure it's presence.

The only other name I could think of would be Humidity. But the section is probably about Soil moisture I think (that is what impacts on plant life hence microclimate). Garrie 11:49, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Temperature
The low humidity is also reflected in wide temperature variation... Australia is known for being a hot dry place. The dry conditions are mentioned - as is SNOW! But the heat isn't...

There are no references yet, so it shouldn't take too much to add something as coherant as the existing text regarding temperature variability.Garrie 11:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Overemphasis on Dryness
This article focusses a great deal on the dryness of the Australian continent, which is certainly valid given Australia's status as the driest continent on earth. However as the article is titled 'Climate of Australia' and not specifically the dryness of the Australian continent, I believe it would be useful if some mention was made of the more humid and wetter areas of the continent nearer to the coast and mountains where the vast majority of Australians live.

I believe that this would give a better representation to a wider world audience of the overall climate of Australia. Fracboy 02:57, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Fact error ?
Article notes that <80% of the continent received less than 600mm of rain. I'm sure this is wrong ( I don't have a reference just memory for this ) that the correct figure is <80% getting less than 250mm of rain. This is certainly the case for SA and WA - Peripitus (Talk) 11:06, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm - perhaps this map shows the article is correct - Peripitus (Talk) 11:08, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Ski tourism
I think that there is a snow tourism industry is worth mentioning because it's not immediately obvious, and it helps demonstrate that the snow is reliable enough to be worth investing in ski resorts. Sorry but so far the references are ski travel websites. Don't know anything much better to add as a reference to the type of attractions in different locations but if you have something feel free to change it (or even the locations in the list). Garrie 03:11, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Direction
This article is not really "designed" at the moment. Climate of India is a Featured article so I guess that makes it a reasonable model? It has the following sections:
 * Lead
 * History
 * Regions
 * (each region)
 * Seasons
 * (each season)
 * Statistics
 * Temp
 * Precipitation
 * Disasters
 * Floods / landslides
 * Cyclones
 * Droughts
 * Extremes
 * Global warming
 * Atmospheric pollution

Apparently that's a good structure, because they win the star...

I think it would be good to restructure the article now and make room for similar design. The other thing is we already have some article regarding cyclones etc. as well as regional climate and seasons (ie, Darwin and Sydney don't really share the same seasons).Garrie 03:19, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Disasters
I have added a section for disasters with global warming and drought (still missing floods and cyclones,) the drought section needs improvement and maybe some mention of el nino. Bandwagonman 13:00, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I see Cyclones is in there now, as are Bushfires.
 * I commenced a pretty reasonable Flood section but lost it due to proxy drop-out... :( will have another go at it. It was cobbled together from some pretty sparse coverage of flooding in other articles (Murray River, Hunter river floods, Murrumbidgee River). But any (referenced!) mention is better than no mention.Garrie 01:11, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Regions
I feel the best way to divide the regions would be firstly into states and territories and then into sub regions that have differing climates in that region, i.e. New South Wales: coastal region, mountain regions, agricultural plains and arid plains. Would this make the article too long? Bandwagonman 02:28, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * comment I have made a rough start on the regions section, it still requires a lot of work and preferably input from editors more familiar with regional climate. Bandwagonman 06:28, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Surely a climate article section on regions shoudl only describe climatic regions, not following administrative boundaries at all. JPD (talk) 08:47, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The idea's a good one, but given the size and detail of the NSW section, the article will be very long if each state and territory has a section and a table. At that level of detail (which it would be a shame to lose), I think it's worth spinning off each stat into an article of their own, linked to from this article. I agree with the editor above that a general climate article about Australia should not really consider administrative boundaries. --Canley 12:46, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. I will rearrange the article so that regions comprise of the following sections, south eastern temperate region, central desert, northern tropics, grasslands, sub-tropical regions and the Mediterranean climate of south-west Western Australia. For now i will stick to something roughly along these lines but would appreciate as much input and help as possible. Bandwagonman 14:49, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

New seasons ?
Should the article mention that an Australian scientist says the continent needs five or six seasons to suit its climate? See BBC News website: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8215570.stm It's a bit silly really - why not just have twelve seasons. I also have some ideas for what you could call them. The first season would be January. I suggest calling the second one Steve. Then we could have Triber, Quadber, Susan, Sexber, Sexber2, Sexber3, ... Or how about 52 seasons ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.249.196 (talk) 00:19, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
 * had a hearty chuckle at this Nate Hooper (talk) 01:04, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Warm summers?!
''The region's climate is typified by warm summers and mild winters, with temperatures averaging close to 20°C. Statistically the warmest month is January and the coldest month is July''. Well, if we consider July the central month in summer, and we know too that July is below 20°C average, can we still call this a "warm summer"? Or is it that in Australia the period we call summer in Europe ranges from December to early March? ;-) IF SO, we should at least explain the meteorological definition of "summer" for the southern hemisphere, as it may confuse readers from the northern one. For me, it's far from obvious. -andy 92.229.92.22 (talk) 02:33, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Hell moved HQ to Darwin?
I'm not Australian (I've never even been there) but I'm sure the average monthly maximum temperature for March in Darwin, Northern Territory can't be nearly a thousand degrees C... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sugoruyo (talk • contribs) 08:47, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Reverted copyvio by now blocked editor
It was from and related sites. Useful sources but we can't just copy and paste from them. Dougweller (talk) 20:56, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

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Min Temperatures for January are wrong
Within a few days only I witnessed much lower January min-temperatures for Melbourne and Perth in January than stated in this article (e.g. Melbourne Rainy 12° today).. So why giving false stats here? DrOliverBrausch (talk) 14:21, 6 January 2020 (UTC)


 * It's giving average minimums, not record minimums. Same goes for the maximums, it's average maximums, not record maximums. Fuse809  (contribs · email · talk · uploads) 18:25, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

How would one include a locator map that shows the locations of each of the places in the tables?
I believe it would be useful for the tables to include a map showing where each of the places listed are. I know of the Australian place map module, which is used by the Infobox Australian place, but I'm not sure how to use the module for this purpose. I know it would be possible to manually create a SVG map showing these locations, but it'd be tricky to, by hand, get the exact location of each right, and it would also be more tedious to update in case places are added to the table than it would be using the aforementioned module. Fuse809 (contribs · email · talk · uploads) 18:30, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

I want to remove the citation needed message from the weather box
The citations are clearly visible above the box, but the template seems hard-coded to produce the banner if there is not at least one citation inside the weather box. Does anybody know a way around this? If not I think I will just type "see above" in the box. It's not the traditional way to get things done, but I think it would be better than picking just one link of the 24, or squishing all 24 of them into the same space. — Soap — 21:03, 24 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Maybe you can add and have listed below, either in the reference list or maybe immediately below the table.  Fuse809  (contribs · email · talk · uploads) 02:58, 25 January 2020 (UTC)