Talk:Clio Awards/Archives/2014

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Has anyone ever asked the following quetions????????????????????????????????''

How and why did Ruth Ratney meet Bill Evans? What was Ruth Ratney's relationship with the future owners? How did Ruth Ratney obtain the CLIO Awards? Why did Ruth sell the CLIO Awards? Why did the staff quit on him? Why entries fees for the 1991 CLIO awards were hidden from Bill Evans and never deposited into the companies account to able Bill to produce the 1991 CLIO Awards at Lincoln Center? How did the CLIO Library end up in London and who brought it there?

When these questions are answered and hidden truths be known. There will be quite a change in this story. &mdash;The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.12.116.70 (talk • contribs).

Swiss add agency
Comsult/Advico Young & Rubicam winning in 1992 is mentioned because it is the first international firm to win (due to rule changes). I added its full name, and removed the sentence "However, Comsult/Advico is owned by Young & Rubicam in New York City." for a few reasons:
 * It was a terribly awkward sentence, especially since the very next sentence also began with "however"
 * The citation (which was placed after the removed sentence) makes no mention of the ownership, and the claim is therefore not supported by the citation
 * Adding its full name (which is consistent across sources, I cross-checked with Clio's own archives) makes the connection clearer without the extra sentence — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spellcheck (talk • contribs) 19:24, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
 * While it is fairly clear that Advico Y&R is part of Y&R, the relevance of the clarification is questionable. It's still a Swiss firm making Swiss ads for Swiss companies, and several incidents in the Y&R page make it clear that the international holdings are loosely connected at best
 * To further the relevance question: Y&R is now owned by a London company anyway (although was not in 1992), so it's not even ultimately a NY-owned company anymore

I think the article is better without the sentence, but if the note about Y&R being (in 1992) based in NY is re-added, I think it should be done less awkwardly and without the citation connected to it. --The Human Spellchecker (talk) 19:21, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Edit request
In reading your editorial on THE CLIO AWARDS please be advised that I, Sandra Inbody-Brick, was hired by Ruth Ratny as the Executive Producer of THE NEW CLIO AWARDS. I was the Executive Producer of the LOS ANGELES ADVERTISING CLUB'S BELDING AWARDS for eleven years and recognized nationally for that event. During that time I had elevated the Belding Awards in both entries and attendance at the Awards Show. On March 22, 1987 the show was held at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion at the Music Center with over 2,000 people in attendance.

As you have accurately reported on June 13, 1991 the Advertising Industry's best know award show explodes into a frenzy in which attendees storm the stage and steal Clio Awards. On August 19, 1991 Clio owner Bill Evans has turned to a small Wall Street firm to find investors for the awards show and insists "There will be a Clio's for 1992."

On September 27, 1991 Ruth Ratny's Screen Intl., the Chicago-based publisher of Screen Magazine, purchases the Clio trademark for $10,000.00, and on February 17, 1992 ADWEEK'S headline story was, "INBODY-BRICK GETS THE HONOR OF PRODUCING 1992 CLIO AWARDS." The story was written by Betsy Sharkey, who today is a movie and film editor with the LA TIMES.

It's content is as follows: LOS ANGELES - Ad vet Sandy Inbody-Brick, who has produced awards shows in the West for nearly a decade, has been named executive producer of the 1992 Clio Awards. Resurrecting the Clios will be a formidable task. The once-coveted Clios were debased last year when then-owner Bill Evans never arrived at the show, leaving a caterer to emcee and the bills unpaid. The show ended with angry contenders rushing to the stage. Chicago-Based Ruth Ratny bought the name after the fiasco and began trying to rebuild. "I was at the Belding judging last weekend," says Inbody-Brick, referring to the Ad Club of L.A.'s show which she has produced for one years. "Sitting with judges from around the country, I heard a lot about what they thought needed to be fixed with the Clios."

On September 4, 1992 the Los Angeles Times article by Bruce Horovitz "HELLO CLIO, WHAT'S NEW?" also raised the issue of whether or not the event would take place at all. It's content-in-paart is as follows: "Clio, with the help of two ad women, is desperately trying to re-sell itself in a new and improved package and repairs an image tattered last year when one gathering erupted in a statue-grabbing ruckus and another ceremony was canceled because the Clio-owner couldn't pay his bills.  The 1992 Awards Ceremony is scheduled for September 15 in New York City's Waldorf-Astoria Hotel.  To produce the show Ratny, has turned to Los Angeles ad woman Sandra Inbody-Brick who is best known for producing the last 10 Belding Award shows, the West Coast's top advertising competition.  Inbody-Brick implemented new standards for judging the competition.  In the past, the judging was loosely run and criticized for its lack of organization.  "If the Clios falls flat on its face this year, I know it's my face that will be flattened."  Most ad executives say they expect they the Clios will survive. But, if the Clio Awards is another flop again this year, said adman Phil Dusenberry, "you can kiss it goodbye forever."

Well, the show went on with Tony Randall as the host and there were over 500 advertising people in the audience! It was a success and the Clio's are still going strong. I played a significant role in bringing them back after the fiasco and would appreciate that information being included in your commentary on the Clio Awards.

Sincerely,

Sandra Inbody-Brick ```` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sandra Alhadeff (talk • contribs) 18:46, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

(All the foregoing was copied from WP:EAR as a courtesy to the newcomer editor. — TransporterMan  ( TALK ) 21:43, 11 December 2014 (UTC))
 * This article needs a lot of work, but I don't think that level of detail is one of them .-- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom  22:57, 11 December 2014 (UTC)