Talk:Clive Cussler/Archive 1

Eagle Scout
The Eagle Scout category was added by User:136.182.2.221 on 6 Jul 2006. I cannot verify that Cussler is an Eagle Scout. If there is no verification, I am going to remove the category soon. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 17:47, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

The Eagle Scout category has been removed. If there is any verification that Cussler is an Eagle, please restore the category. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 19:54, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
 * he was and it states it in the book: clive cussler and dirk pitt reavled Razor romance 14:57, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Please do more than add a category link to the page. If you are going to add a category you should also add a short sentence to the biography section. Please be sure to cite your source in the Notes section!--Ulysses411 22:54, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Removed Eagle Scout category again.-Phips (talk) 21:50, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
 * This is a stale discussion, Razor romance established it above. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 22:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Ship find verification
I've started adding information on Cussler's shipwreck finds to the respective articles, each with a link to the NUMA webpage that describes it. The NUMA site doesn't meet Wikipedia's standards for verifiability, though, so I'm forced to couch the info in language like "Cussler claims...." Help verifying this stuff would be appreciated. jhf 07:12, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

THE HUNLEY
I am currently eading RAISING THE HUNLEY and it is stated that the CSS HUNLEY is a misnomer as the ship was built as a privaterr, and was never commissioned.

Racefan 72001 16:11, 21 September 2006 (UTC)Racefan 72001

Thats correct. Splamo 01:01, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Copyright Issues
Either this page is in violation, or the linked page below is in violation:

http://www.bookreporter.com/authors/au-cussler-clive.asp —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.166.63 (talk • contribs)

It indeed is almost certain that this article was copied from the copyrighted bookreporter.com site, so I have deleted the offending material. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. -- Donald Albury 23:34, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Birthplace
There seems to be just about equal representation on the web that place Clive Cussler's birthplace either in Aurora, Illinois or in Alhambra California. It seems likely to me that the articles referencing Alhambra mistakenly placed his birthplace there because he mentions that he grew up there as a boy. I decided on a couple of websites to reference that place his birthplace in Illinois though they are far from definitive. --Ulysses411 00:09, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Per his bio (see below), it is Aurora, Illinois. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 01:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Number of grandchildren
User 67.176.43.187 changed the number of grandchildren from 2 to 4 but did not cite a source. Does anyome know of a source for this information? --Ulysses411 23:53, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Clive Cussler and Dirk Pitt Revealed
Clive Cussler and Dirk Pitt Revealed is mentioned in the bibliography twice, but is never used as a reference. Revealed has a lot of valuable information- his place of birth is Aurora, Illinois and he is and Eagle Scout. My interests here are quite narrow and I have other tasks. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 01:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Life imitating art
The paragraph starting "Cussler's work in marine exploration has often raised eyebrows and tempers alike..." (at least in this edit ), seems to me to be filled with weasel words and internal contradictions. There may be some truth to it but it at least needs a rewrite. I almost deleted outright as per the biography template (top of this page) but wasn't feeling very bold today. DJ Barney (talk) 11:49, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Cinematization of Oregon Files
A trailer has been produced in an effort to bring cussler's 'Oregon Files' to the small screen. http://www.fightscameraaction.com/play.php?vid=93 not much exists other than this link on the web but http://www.oakoconnor.com/iWeb/oakoconnor.com/Oregon%20Files.html has some information about the production.

there is a video somewhere on youtube with both Cussler and Daniel Tibbets (exec producer for the series) but the link has been lost. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.196.142.91 (talk) 12:20, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

The section: Novels featuring Pitt's children
The novels listed are a repeat of the last five novels listed in the previous section. Could possibly be listed in the section above, as is, but with a note mentioning that they feature his children, rather than being a seperate section, repeating already listed titles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NMackay (talk • contribs) 06:12, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Crusader lawsuit
What about a mention to the California Appeals Court reversing the lawsuit Crusader/Bristol Bay brought up concerning it's Sahara flop? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.64.6.26 (talk) 09:25, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

Picture
Does anyone else think that this article needs a picture? Someone should be able to find a good CC picture of him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ErichSturmovik (talk • contribs) 21:15, 19 December 2010 (UTC)

Cinematization dispute
I'm going to raise this via WP:3. An unregistered individual has removed a substantial portion of the cinematization section on two occasions. It's not obvious to me that there was a violation of policies here. The IP address seems to suggest that the person who did the edits may be the very subject of the article, or someone related to him. --Itinerant1 (talk) 06:18, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi, I'm a Third Opinion Wikipedian. Your request has been removed from the Third Opinion Project request list because the guidelines for the project limit it to disputes which have been discussed on the article talk page and have come to a standstill. Let me suggest that you take your issue to the Editor Assistance Noticeboard instead. Best regards,  T RANSPORTER M AN  ( TALK ) 14:44, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Metric System
I remember trying to read a copy of Inca Gold but being unable to because every distance was rendered in both English and metric units. Is this specific to that work, or does he do this in all his novels? Google suggests this wasn't specific to that edition, and I've never seen it anywhere else. --128.148.33.87 (talk) 19:17, 4 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Um... what? Could you clarify this? For example, if Cussler wrote; "Pitt had to walk ten miles, or sixteen kilometers, before he found the river..."', to decribe a distance in the story, this would make the book unreadable for you? How so? Wolf (72.136.28.234 (talk) 09:26, 1 January 2012 (UTC))


 * Not unreadable, but certainly ungainly, therefore IMHO not the best writing (acceptable in an encyclopedia, distracting in fiction) IdreamofJeanie (talk) 16:27, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

Mistake.
In several books Cussler has characters lying prone and at the same time looking upwards,this is very difficult as prone means face down.If you wish to look upwards you must be supine meaning lying on your back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.196.182.155 (talk) 21:27, 17 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Mistake? - Could you possibly cite a book and page number for this? Your complaint is vague. It is possible for someone lying prone to look upwards, depending on the circumstances. Wolf (72.136.28.234 (talk) 09:18, 1 January 2012 (UTC))

Nonsense
The "Yogi Mantle" section that mentioned a 'bear documentary' (as well as a homosexual innuendo) was not only unsourced, but completely innappropriate. I also couldn't find a single independent article or reference to support these claims either. Deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.101.237.139 (talk) 20:41, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Redlink titles
Visiting here after improving template Jack Du Brul, I noticed three redlinks that were false negatives: titles disambiguated or spelled incorrectly. This suggests that other false redlinks remain. --P64 (talk) 17:02, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Very rosy view
The article presents a very rosy view of the author.

There is no mention that a jury found he had misrepresented his readership by 250%: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/book-publishers-will-escape-legal-650628. There is no mention of the Sahara litigation which Wikipedia reports elsewhere: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahara_%282005_film%29. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.243.71.146 (talk) 06:12, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

Degree
The claim that the author was awarded a doctorate by an accredited university for publishing a non-fiction book seems incredible. The reference given for the information is the author's own website.

However, the university web site acknowledges the degree though not why it was granted. This would be a better source for the information.

As others have noted, this is a very upbeat article. It ignores the controversies around the author and contains no critical assessment of his work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:3E0B:BA00:188A:1C8B:713B:E755 (talk) 05:35, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

For a work of fiction it might be hard to believe, but for a non-fiction work, it's reasonable. Nathaniel Bowditch received a degree from Harvard for his book, The American Practical Navigator. J S Ayer (talk) 15:47, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Second wife
In the section "Personal life," there's no mention of Cussler's second wife Janet Horvath. Why?

Granted, they've kept the date of their marriage a secret and that his kids were not in favor of it, but is that any reason not to mention her?

She was mentioned as a fiance in a 16 May 2007 article when the court battle over the "Sahara" movie ended and mentioned as his wife in a 2 June 2010 article.2600:8800:50B:6700:C23F:D5FF:FEC5:89B6 (talk) 09:16, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Editor of a book
Cussler is the "editor of record" for the book "Thriller 2: Stories You Just Can't Put Down" (506 pages) published by MIRA in 2009 (ISBN-13: 978-0-7783-2723-3) yet the book is not listed among his works. Why?

Granted, the book is a thriller anthology ("Twenty-three bestselling and hot new authors...." from the dust jacket blurb) for which Cussler also wrote the Introduction. Still, shouldn't it be listed? 2600:8800:50B:6700:C23F:D5FF:FEC5:89B6 (talk) 09:34, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Cable TV series
Why no mention of the USA network / National Geographic International Television series "Clive Cussler's The Sea Hunters: True Adventures with Famous Shipwrecks"? Especially since it ran for FIVE seasons and was seen in 172 countries?

Granted, Cussler only did the episode intros and wrap-ups and James P. Delgado did the onsite "reporting," is that any reason not to mention the series?

Also, Delgado wrote a book, "Adventures of a Sea Hunter: In Search of Famous Shipwrecks" (published by Douglas & McIntyre, 2004, ISBN 1-55365-071-9; AKA "In Search of Famous Shipwrecks: Adventures of a Sea Hunter" published by MJF Books, 2004, ISBN-13: 978-1-56731-893-7, ISBN-10: 1-56731-893-2) which is "based on 'Sea Hunters' episodes and on Delgado's own underwater explorations" [quote is from dust jacket blurb]. And, Cussler wrote the book's Forward.

So, how about including some kind of mention of this series? 2600:8800:50B:6700:C23F:D5FF:FEC5:89B6 (talk) 10:06, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Infobox photo
Couldn't someone find a better picture/photo of Cussler?

In no way does the current one do him any justice. That is NOT how he normally appears. I've been to numerous book signings of his and he's NEVER looked that bad.

Please replace it ! 2600:8800:787:F500:C23F:D5FF:FEC5:89B6 (talk) 21:05, 4 June 2017 (UTC)