Talk:Closer (Nine Inch Nails song)

Lyrics and Video Imagery connection
I was surprised to see that no mention was made of the song's lyrics and the imagery in the video. I added a bit, but review it for accuracy, because it's been a while and I'm not sure I'm remembering everything exactly right. Everyking 23:21, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Looks good! I corrected one little fact about the video's missing scenes. I think the song section of this article could still be expanded a bit -- the chorus alone (censored though it was) made it very unique for something played on American radio stations. --Tripps 01:15, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Here's something interesting: The version of Closer that appears here 'isn't' the same as the album version. The album version cuts out before the final note on the keyboard/piano has time to fully play (meaning you get a kind of "That note was Really Short" feeling) and that's actually because it synches up with the next track, Ruiner, since Downward Spiral was a concept album and did stuff like that. The version at the end of the single, however, is about thirteen seconds longer and has the full note, as well as a little bit of the little background noise that plays during the keyboard part. 72.72.223.194 00:33, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I have added this note. Pomte 05:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Anybody here ever watch thge Kung-Fu flick "master of the Flying Guillotine??"
The reason that I'm asking is because the song "Closer" features a drum sound-effect that sounds exactly like the music played in the movie of the same name in every shot where the Master was shown walking from place to place.

Can anybody else comment on this, as I didn't see any crediting for the sound effect in the "Closer (to God)" article?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thanos777 (talk • contribs) 00:19, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Is it possible that the music in the movie was the Iggy Pop song, Nightclubbing? This is the song which Reznor sourced the Closer kick drum sample from. It sounds identical. TheFearedMachina (talk) 14:41, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Move this article to namespace: Closer (Nine Inch Nails song)?
Since the main version of the song is titled "Closer," it appears on The Downward Spiral as "Closer," it appeared on MTV, radio, etc. as "Closer," the single is listed in Template:Nine Inch Nails as "Closer," and numerous editions (both commercial and promo) of the Halo Nine single (US/Australia cassette and UK CD 1, to name two) are officially titled "Closer," I would argue the logical primary namespace for this article should be [[Closer (Nine Inch Nails song) ]]. I propose moving this article and making Closer to God a redirect to it. If you have an objection, speak now.

Your friend, Augustus Chip (talk) 20:08, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree: to name it anything else seems unnecessarily confusing. It also comes across a bit like WP:fancruft, since it's kind of a little-known-fact being blown out of proportion.  So, I'm all for the move. Drewcifer (talk) 20:52, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

The bass drum and snare drum origin
""Closer's" drum track features a heavily modified kick drum sample from the Iggy Pop song "Nightclubbing" from his album The Idiot.[1] The snare drum sound heard throughout the song is actually randomly sampled white noise on which Trent Reznor put a noise gate and then triggered with a MIDI controller."

Now is it just me, or are there any other electronic drummers who find these statements to be completely full of crap? I highly doubt it's just a "heavily modified kick sample from Iggy Pop" considering it's basically just a TR-808 bass drum, the same kind used in thosuands of other songs. White noise for the snare drum? What? How about a clearly obvious TR-909 snare drum? The source cited points to nowhere, can we be logical on this one? Clearly a tr-808 bass drum and tr-909 snare, let's not dress it up like he was a genius creating it. They're slightly modified analog samples, nothing more. Hell, Skinny Puppy used these drum samples in countless songs, and any rap song you hear on the radio almost definitely has a tr-808 bass in it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.138.91 (talk) 02:58, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't find this statement to be completely full of crap, since there's a citation of Trent Reznor saying that he sampled the kick drum from that song right next to the sentence (though the link is broken - it's now here). If you don't believe what he's saying, that's your problem, but keep in mind that the TR-808 was released in 1980, and that album is from 1977. The statement about the snare drum doesn't cite a thing, and thus is obviously made up, so you could have removed it. RE: other things you said - no one cares about what you think, so you could have kept that to yourself. Litis (talk) 08:43, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Curious about the monkey
Movies always have that "no animals were harmed during the making of this film" message at the end. Hasn't some animal rights people said something about the monkey scene? Just wondering. I thought it looked somewhat disturbing and hoped to find some information about the scene here, and perhaps other readers might also be interested. When I say disturbing I'm not talking about the blasphemous side of it. Thanks in advance, if anyone has info. 84.202.103.114 (talk) 05:05, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

--In a documentary about Mark Romanek (The Work of Director Mark Romanek), they claimed that the monkey has a tic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.155.225.1 (talk) 19:44, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

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Genres
95% convinced this counts as Industrial Dance. Have you heard that bass. Groovy as hell CowboyCurtisTheFifth (talk) 12:22, 8 August 2019 (UTC)