Talk:Coastal erosion in Louisiana

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New article
This is a new article devoted to addressing the urgent problem of coastal erosion in Southeastern Louisiana, which is the most critical topic in relation to the survival of our region. I was surprised that there is not an article on this yet. While I usually write about music, arts, and culture, I could not avoid ignoring this pressing issue which affects my home region, so I decided to create a much-needed article. The article is by no means complete. It is my hope that it will develop and become broader and more comprehensive with the passage of time. Though I am not a scientist, I am a concerned citizen, and I hope that editors who specialize in this area will step forward and contribute. Garagepunk66 (talk) 22:57, 6 September 2015 (UTC)


 * The low importance given to this article by the various Wiki projects is a big disappointment and unfair to people of southeast Louisiana, who with the prospect of hurricanes and expected sea level rise, are at risk. I can think of no other place that could possibly lose this much land a day, and be treated with such indifference.  We need to get with it--this is an important issue! Garagepunk66 (talk) 21:16, 8 November 2015 (UTC)


 * If you think the article needs its importance re-assessing then you should list it at WikiProject Louisiana/Assessment. Whether it has importance beyond the Louisiana project is open to debate. Also you need to read What Wikipedia is not. NealeFamily (talk) 23:28, 8 November 2015 (UTC)


 * That "soapbox" thing has nothing to do with the matter at hand--and this article is neutrally and factually written, so I don't know what that claim is all about. Garagepunk66 (talk) 00:22, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Title of This Article is Incorrect - It Should Be "Coastal land loss in Louisiana
The title to this article is incorrect. It should be "Coastal land loss in Louisiana" instead of "Coastal erosion in Louisiana." Coastal land loss overall conversion of coastal plain, e.g. including wetlands, “to open water either by expansion of existing water bodies (channels, lakes, ponds) or creation of new water bodies." It is a much broader term than coastal erosion in that it includes coastal land loss due to both erosion along shorelines (coastal erosion) and submergence of the land due to subsidence. The article should be renamed to the general process of which coastal land loss is a part.

Examples of definitions from Morton (2003)

"Wetland Losses - Wetland losses involve conversion of wetlands to open water either by expansion of existing water bodies (channels, lakes, ponds) or creation of new water bodies."

“Coastal land loss includes beach erosion, but it is a much broader term because it also includes land losses along bluffs and losses of wetlands around interior bays and estuaries.”

References cited:

Morton, R.A., 2003. An overview of coastal land loss: with emphasis on the Southeastern United States. In US Geological Survey Open File Report 03-337 Paul H. (talk) 17:42, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Not ledeworthy
Glacial Isostatic Adjustment (GIA) is mentioned in the lede, but not in the article. Valetude (talk) 14:33, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Will Be Adding Specific Causes to the Article
Some causes of coastal land loss that are not oil and gas industry navigation canals are:
 * anthropogenic climate change
 * subsidence exacerbated by leveeing of Mississippi River

Some sources I plan to use:


 * Carey, John. “Louisiana Wetlands Tattered by Industrial Canals, Not Just River Levees.” Scientific American, 1 Dec. 2013, www.scientificamerican.com/article/carey-louisiana-wetlands-tattered-by-industrial-canals/.
 * Coastal Protection And Restoration Authority. “2017 Coastal Master Plan.” Coastal Protection And Restoration Authority, 2017, www.coastalmasterplan.la.gov/.
 * Hertsgaard, Mark. Hot: Living through the next Fifty Years on Earth. Mariner Books, 2012.
 * Houck, Oliver. “Can We Save New Orleans?” Tulane Environmental Law Journal , vol. 19, no. 1, 2006, pp. 1–68., www.law.tulane.edu/tuexp/journals/enviro/subscribe.
 * Johnson G.C., J. M. Lyman, T. Boyer, C. M. Domingues, M. Ishii, R. Killick, D. Monselesan, and S. E. Wijffels. “BAMS State of the Climate in 2015 Report.” National Climatic Data Center, Aug. 2016, www.ncdc.noaa.gov/bams/2015.
 * McPhee, John. “Atchafalaya.” The New Yorker, The New Yorker, 23 Feb. 1987, www.newyorker.com/magazine/1987/02/23/atchafalaya.
 * NSIDC. “National Snow and Ice Data Center.” Ice Sheets, National Snow and Ice Data Center, 2018, nsidc.org/cryosphere/quickfacts/icesheets.html.
 * Nyman, John A. “Ecological Functions of Wetlands.” Wetlands, 15 Apr. 2011, pp. 115–128., doi:https://doi.org/10.1007/978-94-007-0551-7_6.
 * Tidwell, Mike. Bayou Farewell: the Rich Life and Tragic Death of Louisiana's Cajun Coast. Vintage Books, 2010.
 * Velicogna, I. “Increasing Rates of Ice Mass Loss from the Greenland and Antarctic Ice Sheets Revealed by GRACE.” Geophysical Research Letters, vol. 36, no. 19, 2009, doi:10.1029/2009gl040222.
 * Warrick, John, and Michael Grunwald . “ad_icon Investigators Link Levee Failures to Design Flaws.” The Washington Post, WP Company, 24 Oct. 2005, www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/23/AR2005102301200_pf.html.

Proposed merge of South Louisiana coastal erosion into Coastal erosion in Louisiana
The subject of these articles would appear to be the same, as South Louisiana is where Louisiana's coast is. Coastal erosion in Louisiana specifically addresses the southern regions of Louisiana, so I think that having two separate articles is unnecessary. signed,Rosguill talk 00:30, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Support merge. Clearly the same subject.  Onel 5969  TT me 09:15, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ Klbrain (talk) 19:48, 1 August 2020 (UTC)