Talk:Coat of arms of Albany, New York/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: –Grondemar 03:18, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Will aim to complete this review in the next few days (definitely faster than the Albany, NY review). –Grondemar 03:18, 1 October 2010 (UTC)


 * File:Coat of arms of Albany statue.jpg&mdash;this appears to be a 3D representation of a coat of arms, and per the article text has unique design elements that aren't part of the coat of arms. I don't believe a photo of that can be considered free-use unless the designer, Hy Rosen per the caption, released the statue under a free license.  I'll ask one of the image experts for a second opinion on this one.

Otherwise, I have no issue with any other part of the article; I'll pass the article as a Good Article once the issue with the image is resolved.


 * GA review (see here for criteria)


 * 1) It is reasonably well written.
 * a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
 * 1) It is factually accurate and verifiable.
 * a (references): b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR):
 * 1) It is broad in its coverage.
 * a (major aspects): b (focused):
 * 1) It follows the neutral point of view policy.
 * Fair representation without bias:
 * 1) It is stable.
 * No edit wars, etc.:
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * This article will be on hold for a minimum of seven days waiting for the above issue to be resolved.
 * 1) It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
 * a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
 * 1) Overall:
 * Pass/Fail:
 * This article will be on hold for a minimum of seven days waiting for the above issue to be resolved.
 * This article will be on hold for a minimum of seven days waiting for the above issue to be resolved.

Thank you. –Grondemar 19:04, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I can send a message to one of the image experts at FAC since that seems to be the only issue holding it up. I know it's a question of freedom of panorama, which I don't think is allowed for statues under U.S. law. I'll check with someone on that. Wizardman  Operation Big Bear 16:36, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * File:Coat of arms of Albany statue.jpg seems to be an interesting case for the differentiation of blason (definition) and emblazon (representation): what we have here is a 3D representation. It is original; it does not resemble any previous representations.  Therefore, the statue is entitled to copyright protection.  It does not need a copyright notice since this was in the public after 1977.  Derivatives of this work, such as this photograph, will have to consider Rosen's copyright; unless he places his work in the public domain or releases it under a scheme compatible with Wikimedia's interpretation of "free", the photograph could be considered a violation of his right.  It might be possible to use this image as fair use; the article talks of the statue (in comparison to previous representations).  It has to be first reduced in resolution (~100,000 pixels in total size, although this is subjective) to comply with WP:NFCC as well.  Jappalang (talk) 22:28, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the comments. Learned yet another thing about copyright. Wizardman  Operation Big Bear

As for the review, I've now fixed the image, and since that was the only outstanding issue, I'm passing this as a GA (I see that Grondemar hasn't been that active the past few weeks so I'll just do this). Wizardman Operation Big Bear 03:30, 30 October 2010 (UTC)