Talk:Coat of arms of Austria

The three classes

 * of the three "classes" (workers, peasants and bourgeoisie)

Not workers, bourgeoisie and aristorcracy? Mr. Jones 12:49, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No. Aristocracy was abolished in 1919. Martg76 17:41, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

What do you think would represent the aristocracy in this picture? The sickle? No, thats for peasants, obviously.


 * The crown, genious. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Descendall (talk • contribs).
 * the mocking sarcastic use of "genius" is inappropriate in an encyclopedic discussion, and bitterly ironic since you spelled it wrong. Also this is a mural crown, which is not associated with nobility at all in traditional heraldry with nobility. Rather it represents a town or settlement- thus it is only natural for it to symbolize the bourgeoisie, as the bourgeoisie in medieval times first began to emerge along with the emergence of the new capitalist economy developing in towns. -anonymous

Hmmm... the mural crown article doesn't say anything about representing the bourgeoisie. More the military and republicanism. I'm going to put on this. A Geek Tragedy 10:50, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


 * If someone doesn't site this by 12 August 2007 I will remove it, as no one cited it within 6 months. More than enough time.Taboo Tongue 04:02, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I was a little late but I removed it today, as it was not cited within a year. Taboo Tongue (talk) 19:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Hammer and sickle
What is the meaning of the hammer and sickle? thanks. --SelfQ (talk) 10:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * hammer = workers/labour
 * sickle = farmers/agriculture —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.164.202.232 (talk) 08:51, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Is the usage of the hammer and sickle related to communism in this case (as it usually is)? Somebody should explain it because it confused me. I have no idea why that would be in their coat of arms. 69.242.75.186 (talk) 06:31, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * That question was actually what I was going for as well, it doesnt make a whole lot of sense to me ether.--SelfQ (talk) 16:21, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Broken chains
The article claims "The broken iron chain between the two claws indicates the liberation from Nazism and was added after World War II", which contradicts the fact that the the chainless version was used between 1934 and 1938. If so, what was used before 1934 (a seperate Austrian formed in 1918 already). If the chains were there after 1918 already, they must have meant something else.Ewok (talk) 07:20, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It was poorly worded. I have substituted my translation of (part of) the German article.  Hopefully, this now makes more sense. Petecollier (talk) 01:32, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

older arms
this only covers the arms of the Republic. However depictions of older arms redirect here. Really this article gives the impression that these arms just suddenly appeared in 1919, which couldn't be further from the truth. 98.206.155.53 (talk) 07:07, 11 December 2010 (UTC)