Talk:Code First Girls

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Hi there, I haven't edited a wikipedia page before so my apologies if I have written this incorrectly, but Code First Girls no longer have a colon in their name like "Code First: Girls", it is just Code First Girls as seen here https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13792640 and on their website here https://codefirstgirls.com/about-us/ 77.86.105.76 (talk) 13:51, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Updates to out-dated information
What I think should be changed: As with the earlier talk request on this page, change instances where the name is written as “Code First: Girls”, including the title of the page, and change it to “Code First Girls”

Why it should be changed: The company name has been officially changed and so the the spelling in the article is outdated and incorrect. Please refer to the provided references for examples of the new name written correctly.

 References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/29/gchq-female-coders-boost-nano-degree-courses https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-65175900 https://ipo.blog.gov.uk/2022/01/28/insights-into-tech-careers-and-courses-with-code-first-girls/

What I think should be changed: In the information box at the top of the article, update the company type from “Not for Profit Social Enterprise” to “Limited Company”

Why it should be changed: This information is outdated. The company transitioned to a limited company in 2021. Please refer to reference below.

 References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13792640/filing-history https://sifted.eu/articles/code-first-girls-series-a

What I think should be changed: Change “as of 2022 they’ve trained over 50,000 women” to “as of 2022 they have trained over 100,000 women and are reported to have provided in excess of $74.2 million worth of free technology education”

Why it should be changed: The information in the article is incorrect and the existing source [1] on the page does not reference the number of women trained. The suggestion offers accurate and up-to-date information on the number of women trained. The information about the value of training provided has been added to this sentence, rather than later on, to make the article more succinct. The references provided below have the correct information about number of women trained and value of training. The provided references offer accurate and up-to-date information on the number of women trained and the value of the training. This reinforces the reliability of the new information and strengthens the case for its inclusion in the article.

 References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): https://www.fenews.co.uk/education/one-hundred-thousand-opportunities-given-to-women-in-the-uk-to-learn-to-code-for-free-as-code-first-girls-hits-major-milestone/ https://www.insurtechinsights.com/driving-diversity-in-tech-anna-brailsford-ceo-of-code-first-girls/

What I think should be changed: Remove the sentence “As of 2020, Code First Girls is reported to have provided in excess of £10 million worth of free coding courses to more than 18,000 women since 2013.”

Why it should be changed: As above, this information is outdated and the information is now provided in the above request.

 References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): N/A removing

What I think should be changed: Remove “paid training” from the second paragraph and “paid-for in-person” from the first paragraph in the programs section.

Why it should be changed: This information is incorrect. All courses offered by Code First Girls are free for learners and all courses are taught remotely. Please refer to the provided references for examples that state that Code First Girls' courses are free.

 References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/free-coding-courses-for-women-help-to-bridge-technology-gender-gap-99dg9sk5w https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-65175900 https://codefirstgirls.com/community-faqs/

What I think should be changed: Change the paragraph “Code First Girls runs free part-time coding courses for female/non-binary identifying young individuals across the UK and Ireland, branded as Career Kickstarter” to “Code First Girls offers free, part-time classes to female and non-binary individuals aged 18+ across the UK, Ireland, and several international markets, including the USA, Netherlands, and Switzerland.”.

Why it should be changed: There is no upper age restriction for Code First Girls courses, so referring to "young individuals" is misleading. Code First Girls classes are not limited to the UK, so this information is outdated and incorrect. Please refer to the references below stating Code First Girls courses are delivered in other countries.

 References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): https://businesscloud.co.uk/news/code-first-girls-hits-100000-milestone/

What I think should be changed: Change Areas served in the information box at the top from from “United Kingdom, Republic of Ireland” to “Global”

Why it should be changed: Per above reasoning. Code First Girls serves several markets.

 References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): https://businesscloud.co.uk/news/code-first-girls-hits-100000-milestone/

What I think should be changed: Change the heading “Free Community Courses- Career Kickstarter & Essentials” to “ @uni Kickstarter & Coding Kickstarter classes”

Why it should be changed: Given all courses are free, there is no need to state “free community courses”. The name of the classes is incorrect and so is misleading and confusing to readers. See reference for correct name of the classes.

 References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): https://codefirstgirls.com/courses/classes/

What I think should be changed: Change the sentence “Individuals joining courses at a university are required to be a student at a host university” to “ Individuals who are currently attending or have recently graduated from university can join classes branded as "@uni Kickstarter", while professionals looking to upskill within their current role or switch to a tech career can join classes branded as "Coding Kickstarter”".

Why it should be changed: Inline with the above, class offerings have changed and so current information in the article is outdated and incorrect.

 References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): https://codefirstgirls.com/courses/classes/

What I think should be changed: Remove the sentence “General coding courses are also delivered at corporate locations and are open to women with the following eligibility: Aged between 18-23; or Aged 18+ and currently studying; or Aged 18+ and completed their studies in the past 2 years.”

Why it should be changed: Courses are delivered remotely and so this is incorrect information. The only age restriction is women have to be aged over 18, this information is now included in an earlier sentence and so this sentence is repetitive and unnecessary.

 References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): N/A as removing information.

What I think should be changed: Change “called Essentials” to “ called MOOCs”

Why it should be changed: Code First Girls no longer uses the term ‘Essentials’ and now uses the industry standard terminology MOOC standing for Massive Open Online Course. Updating the name to industry recognised terminology will make the article clearer for readers. See reference for wikipedia page on MOOCs.

 References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive_open_online_course

What I think should be changed: Change “These courses are open to the public and serve to introduce programming languages like Python, SQL, or HTML to coding beginners.” to “The classes and MOOCs serve to introduce programming languages like Python, SQL, HTML and JavaScript to coding beginners”

Why it should be changed: As the preceding paragraph contains information about classes and MOOCs, the closing sentence should be updated to reflect this. The missing citation for the course offering is below.

 References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): https://codefirstgirls.com/courses/classes/uni-kickstarter/

What I think should be changed: Remove the the entire section on ‘Subsidised Professionals Courses - Career Switcher’

Why it should be changed: The details in the article are incorrect, for example, they are not fee-paying. The correct and up-to-date information is now included in the above suggestions, removing this section will makes the articles more succinct and clear for readers.

 References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): N/A as removing information.

What I think should be changed: Within the Programs section add a new sub-heading “CFGdegree” below this add the following information. “The CFGdegree is a 16-week, part-time course that is open by application and interview to high-potential women who want to pursue careers in data, software, full-stack development, or product management pathways with Code First Girls' partner companies. The cost of the education is fully supported by partner companies through a B2B subscription model.”

Why it should be changed: This section provides readers with up-to-date information on the course offerings of Code First Girls. Given that the courses are now free, this section introduces information about the revenue structure to provide greater transparency and insight into the business model.

 References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): https://codefirstgirls.com/courses/cfgdegree/ https://codefirstgirls.com/partner-with-us/companies/

What I think should be changed: Below the sentence ending “… help more women into tech” at the end of the history section and the following information “Anna Brailsford succeeded Aamil de Alwis as Chief Executive Officer in 2019. She has transformed Code First Girls from a non-profit into a commercial business, and in 2022 secured Series A funding worth £4.5m.”

Why it should be changed: The information on the page is now outdated due to the change of CEO and transition to a Limited Company. See below for references regarding Anna Brailsford year of appointment, transition to commercial business and Series A funding.

 References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): https://techround.co.uk/interviews/meet-anna-brailsford-code-first-girls/ https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/free-coding-courses-for-women-help-to-bridge-technology-gender-gap-99dg9sk5w https://www.uktech.news/women-in-tech/code-first-girls-20220907 https://www.eu-startups.com/2022/09/uks-code-first-girls-lands-e5-2-million-to-empower-more-women-to-access-opportunities-in-tech/

31.94.7.146 (talk) 10:19, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Reply 25-JUL-2023
Below you will see where proposals from your request have been quoted with reviewer decisions and feedback inserted underneath, either accepting, declining or otherwise commenting upon your proposal(s). Please read the enclosed notes within the proposal review section below for information on each request. Spintendo 02:05, 26 July 2023 (UTC)

Requested move 28 July 2023

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure)  WP scatter  t/c 14:14, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Code First: Girls → Code First Girls – The company name has been officially changed and no longer includes a colon, so the the name of the article is outdated and incorrect. See references for examples of the new name written correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/aug/29/gchq-female-coders-boost-nano-degree-courses https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-65175900 https://ipo.blog.gov.uk/2022/01/28/insights-into-tech-careers-and-courses-with-code-first-girls/ 176.254.196.218 (talk) 09:50, 28 July 2023 (UTC) https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13792640 The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Support This seems fairly uncontroversial as far as name changes go. The new name is clearly in use by sources. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:26, 29 July 2023 (UTC)