Talk:Cognitive therapy

Cognitive therapy
I've now moved the original content of this page to Cognitive behavioral therapy, as per long-standing suggestions discussed above. I've had a go at establishing a stub here on the specific topic of Beck's Cognitive Therapy. EverSince 17:57, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering why, with Wikipedia based in the US, that British spellings are so often used. It is certainly evident in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.30.118.87 (talk) 16:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Its a policy matter. Articles remain in the spelling style in which they were originally written unless there is a particular reason to adopt one countries style over another. see Fainites barley 21:09, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I have seen a good Collection of Articles on CBT at http://cognitivebehavioureltherapy.blogspot.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shandithrt (talk • contribs) 06:19, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

Need for clarification of language
Recommend clarifying undefined terms like "internal locus of control on a continuum". (Original sentence below.) Many articles in the sciences are written by experts in their fields and almost seem to become pissing contests as to who can dump the most esoteric information -- who can be the most technically correct while being the most un-useful to the greatest number of people. Nothing in this article is so complex as to not be comprehensible to an average reader -- with appropriate language and clarification. But new terms do need to be defined -- or better yet, re-written in such a way as to simply and clearly deliver concepts and information without the need for excessive terminology found only in a very narrow field of study. Wikipedia is not a textbook. Editors should keep in mind that its aim is to disseminate information to the general public. :-)

"Since academic achievers tend toward internal locus of control on a continuum, efforts to help sudents recognize their reference point, per Julian Rotter, coupled with counseling to think and behave in more positive ways, resulted in a much higher level of academic success."

Also, "sudents" is a misspelling. Kinda brings one back to earth a bit. :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.183.100.3 (talk) 04:09, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Beliefs
J. Krishnamurti: “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.”

1) Why shouldn't any rational human be depressed? (Human Society seems to be addicted to the wars and political institutions of sick human leaders.)

2) Isn't there the danger that any form of therapy will lead to addiction (to the therapist and eventually the "process" itself) -- From the Article:

"Treatment is based on collaboration between patient and therapist and on testing beliefs."

I really could not take the rest of the Article seriously. Might it be suggested that perhaps half the world's population believes in spirits-- and perhaps half of those worship, respect or fear said spirits. Wouldn't the logical place to begin any psychological investigation be: What is the purpose of human existence? Might it be suggested that no human who lives now or who has ever lived can answer that question? --

Furthermore no one can answer the simple question: How many life forms are resident in the human body (ie what life forms does the human body consist of)? -

Physicists can not answer simple questions such as "What is an electron?" "What is a photon?" They endlessly endorse blind BELIEFS. And other blind-men *test* those bogus beliefs-- for glory or money. TheLordSayeth (talk) 13:44, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

''“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.”' — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheLordSayeth (talk • contribs) 13:41, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Postrationalism and constructivism on cognitive therapy
There's a fruitful amount of investigation from postrationalist cognitive therapy from Guidano and Arciero that could be added here — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.215.75.98 (talk) 17:00, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Criticisms section added
Cognitive therapy is the main aspect of cognitive behavioral therapy and the same criticisms to both therapies apply. Because readers of the cognitive therapy page will not necessarily read the cognitive behavioral therapy page, the Criticisms section should be on the cognitive therapy page as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Menicos (talk • contribs) 02:39, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Expired links
Link http://www.beckinstitute.org/what-is-cognitive-behavioral-therapy/cognitive-therapy/cognitive-behavior-therapy-questions/ which is used in reference #1 no longer exists — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.56.51.195 (talk) 11:20, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

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Recommended change to first external link
The first citation, "Questions and Answers About Cognitive Therapy", downloads a word document to your computer upon clicking the link. I found this rather abrupt and unwanted, and I think citing a different source with the same information would fare better for users looking at the citation. The link here https://www.beckinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Question-Answer-Packet-2010.pdf provides the same information in the form of a website PDF, and it also comes from a source that deals directly with cognitive behavior therapy. I'm fairly new to Wiki, so I'm not 100% sure what kind of links/sources are preferred to others, but I thought I'd just mention it here. Shanewolf38 (talk) 01:03, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Other therapists
This says that cognitive therapy was developed by Beck, but were there not other therapists who helped to develop cognitive therapy more or less synonymously but independently of Beck? Vorbee (talk) 10:57, 13 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Yes, there were other therapists around the same time, and even earlier, who developed ideas similar to Beck's ideas (see, e.g., List of cognitive–behavioral therapies). But they used other terms for what they were doing, and the term "cognitive therapy" is, I imagine, most commonly associated with Beck. Importantly, Beck was a university researcher not just a clinician, and he did important early empirical studies on the efficacy of cognitive therapy. Biogeographist (talk) 11:26, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

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