Talk:Cold Brayfield

Anglo Saxon Chronicle
I removed "The last part 'Brayfield' means 'open land by higher ground' and was referred to in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle of 967 as Bragenfelda." because it is not mentioned in the Victoria History and thus seems most unlikely. If someone can produce a reliable citation for the deleted text, please reinsert it. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 11:52, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I found a reference to this effect in the Oxford Dctionary of Englsh Place Names so have added back in. As an aside there must be more than this to say about the place despite its erstwhile inhospitableness!Tmol42 (talk) 15:41, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's useful. Nevertheless, I've commented out the reference to the Anglo Saxon Chronicle  because, if there is any evidence that it refers to this Brayfield, we have no citation [and I'd be surprised if it exists without the VCH having found it!].  As an aside, there is a load of stuff at the VCH article but it's a bit specialised.  Perhaps a local might add something.  I'll ask User:OllieFury...
 * The entry in OD EPL specifically refers to this 'Brayfield' ( in the form of its earlier derivations. (e.g. Bragenfelda et al) and that it was after this that Cold Brayfield and Brayfield on the Green were later named. The cited source for this which the ODEPL uses is the transcription done in 1207 of the Cartularium Saxonicum of 967 (There was a specific Cartulary for Bragenfelda) translated by Walter de Gray Birch in C1885. There is also a possible further secondary source for this I believe in Arnold Baines's article in Record of Bucks (Baines, A. H. J., 'Ealdorman Byrhtnoth and the Brayfield Charter of 967', Records of Buckinghamshire 24 (1992), 30–45 ). On VCH bear in mind that the later editions were published in incomlete / unupdated form after the delay caused by WWI in the 1920s which may account for the incomplete nature of this entryTmol42 (talk) 22:02, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I'm content. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 22:42, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

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