Talk:Collectivism (disambiguation)

Scope
This article has been in poor shape for a long time (see Talk:Collectivism/Archive 3 for example). I finally sat down to read through that student's expansion and much of it has little to do with a common conception of "collectivism"—the article instead lists different ways the term "collectivism" is invoked in a slew of academic articles. Little of it coheres to an encyclopedic topic. My take is that it still makes the most sense to cover collectivism and individualism within the social organization article and to make "collectivism" into a disambiguation page for the variety of meanings ascribed to the term. czar 15:37, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree. I don't see a lot of use or reason for this article as is. Even I think re-writing it under it's current premise wouldn't be so useful. SP00KY talk  16:53, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ All should feel free to expand further with other definitions and at collectivism and individualism. czar  03:47, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, please feel free to fix the 1,582 articles which now link to the new disambiguation page. Certes (talk) 13:54, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

POV
The very definition immediately presupposes with its wordings that individualism is only right and good and collectivism is only wrong and bad - individuals 'realise' the truth, while collectivists don't get it, can't do what individualists can, etc. This seems like crude ideology. A single citation is not a justification for this. It should be possible to define these things without obvious value judgements.--79.100.144.23 (talk) 16:25, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
 * And on top of being imprecise the lead is not even concise. It would be nice if you or somebody else who feels they have the ability to write something better than this to do so. SP00KY  talk  16:45, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Bias
This definition is incredibly biased, as the point entitled "POV" has already observed. 207.53.252.145 (talk) 22:59, 28 May 2022 (UTC)