Talk:Colomban MC-30 Luciole

Photos needed
This article desperately needs some photos. Richard Teverson (the UK's first Luciole builder) is happy for photos from his site http://luciole.co.uk/ &  http://luciole.co.uk/News___Events.html  to be used. I haven't had much luck doing this. Any offers? Arrivisto (talk) 13:13, 18 March 2012 (UTC)


 * The best solution is if the photo's copyright holder uploads them to Commons himself under a permissive licence. Alternatively he can indicate on his own website that they are available under a permissive licence and specify the licence, which would allow someone else to upload them to Commons. He could also issue a letter indicating permission, but this makes for a much more difficult paperwork problem. - Ahunt (talk) 14:02, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

What's a grp ??
The below quote from the article doesn't make any sense to me - is it just me, or is there a typo? Or is grp a code or short for something or other? Jan olieslagers (talk) 18:16, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

[quote] Donaldson's major criticism was that the elevator's grp spring (to provide self-centering and to impart "feel") was in the cockpit and not in the tail [/quote]


 * ✅ - Ahunt (talk) 20:47, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

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Aircraft crash in Scotland
This article could do with an update to account for an example of this aircraft that crashed recently in Scotland - possibly the only UK-built example.

It is thought a short circuit around the starter motor caused a fuel supply hose to rupture and catch fire.

The pilot (83) escaped unharmed.

Links for information:

BBC News article

Air Accidents Investigation Branch report

I am extremely new to Wikipedia which is why I haven't made an attempt to update the article myself, but if that's felt to be appropriate I'll do so. Theberenger (talk) 09:22, 25 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for bringing this here for discussion. I read the report and it does suggest an inspect of other UK-based aircraft to ensure that they aren't rigged the same way to make sure that the rudder pedals don't short out the starter. Our accident inclusion standard is at WP:AIRCRASH and overall I would say this accident doesn't meet the standard to be included. It was really just a single builder's error in how he installed the equipment, with no evidence of a widespread design issue here. - Ahunt (talk) 12:51, 25 November 2019 (UTC)