Talk:Commercial Data Systems

British vs. Saskatchewan CDS
User:Freakchild, your recent edits to the Commercial Data Systems article have caught my attention. You claim that there are two separate companies named CDS, one of them a Saskatchewan-based consulting company, and one of them a British publisher of 8-bit games. May I ask the source of this information? I ask because I distinctly remember seeing a Saskatchewan address for the CDS game advertisements in COMPUTE!'s Gazette.

Further evidence that the Saskatchewan CDS was the games publisher is that the head of DLC-West, Jim Nickel, was also involved with CDS and was personally acquainted with Kris Hatlelid, the composer of the music to Frantic Freddie. There are interviews with Kris available on the web which identify him as Canadian.

Now, it's possible that Murray Coons and Jim Nickel were lying, or it's possible that you're lying, or it's possible that I'm lying, or it's possible that both CDS companies produced 8-bit games. In the latter case then we'll have to sort out which games were produced by the Saskatchewan company and which were produced by the British company. —Psychonaut 03:14, 8 January 2006 (UTC)


 * A little Googling shows that CDS (Commercial Data Systems) and CDS Software are different companies, but they both published games. Hence the confusion. CDS definitely published Frantic Freddie, not CDS Software. Mirror Vax 03:36, 8 January 2006 (UTC)


 * If it's necessary to sort out who published what, I'm pretty sure Murray Coons is still around, so we could ask him. (The phone book has a listing for an M. Coons in Emerald Park.)  Not sure if this would violate the "no original research" rule, but probably not, since we're just compiling a list. —Psychonaut 03:51, 8 January 2006 (UTC)


 * This is the Freakchild guy. Hi, I am relatively new to the WikiPedia, just thought I would say that - bear it in mind, I've tried not to mess edits up and think it's worked okay so far.  I actually worked for (British) CDS Software from 1988 to 1990 and I am still in touch with the people who founded it.  The list of games that they published on the page were theirs, although I cannot speak to Frantic Freddie.  I have no knowledge of this game, but knowing CDS it sounds like a title of theirs and I wouldn't have singled it out.  I am accepting of edits to remove that title and put it to the Saskatchewan CDS company title because it is probably correct.  I apologize if this caused offence, but the CDS page that was, was largely incorrect in stating what appeared to be a page to the British company (the games listed were mostly theirs) as a Saskatchewan Company.  At this stage it would be correct to keep the split listing of both companies as two pages (I did that, I think it's justified) and I can vouch for the British CDS page being factually correct (yet incomplete) as it stands now.  Verification shouldn't be any effort although not all of their titles are listed on [mobygames]. -Freakchild 23:30, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Incidentally, Wordsearch, Dominoes and Castle Blackstar were published by the British CDS Software company. I converted Wordsearch and Dominoes to Amiga personally. Blackstar is verified here http://tzxvault.retrogames.com/c.htm. I note that these titles remain listed under the Saskatchewan company too. I can't say whether or not they too published titles with similar names so I won't remove them. I believe my edits thus far do not violate the 'no original research rule' Freakchild 23:40, 10 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your contributions. There was definitely a mix-up which you identified. Mirror Vax 00:35, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

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