Talk:Commercial art/Archives/2013

Redirect to Graphic Design
I think most would agree that Commercial Art has become an antiquated phrase. Images of analog processes like airbrushing and physical typesetting come to mind. I don't know if you can find a school that offers a program in "Commercial Art" these days. Graphic Design, and less often, Visual Communication are the current terms being used.

If this page is expanded, you're going to get a lot of duplicate content relating to Graphic Design.

I would consider redirecting Commercial Art to Graphic design and mention Commercial Art in the History section.

DesignOne

contempt among artists?
I do not think this should be in this article.

"Commercial art is often held in contempt among artists for having different values."

This is an opinion which is not verifiable and not necessarily relevent or important encyclopedic information.

Lerner

Commercial art vs. Visual communication
"The term is somewhat obsolete and is currently being replaced in many colleges with the now 'it' term Visual communication."

Commercial art more clearly states what graphic designers, illustrators, art directors, etc. are actually doing. Although colleges are offering Visual communication programs, this does not mean the clasification of "art" made for commercial purposes should be changed.

According to the Wikipedia Visual communication article, art is a part of "Visual communication". There needs to be a clear way to point out the difference of art made to express an artist’s creativity as opposed to art made to sell shampoo. Unlike fine art, Commercial art and design is normally used for commercial purposes, to convey a specific and persuasive message to a large audience.

I think the term Commercial art does this justice.

This classification should not be changed to something even more ambiguous than commercial art. See the work of Christopher Wool as an example of an artist's work that could easily fall under the category of "Visual communication".

This is not to say that another term could not stand to replace "commercial art", but in my opinion this new term should do a better job explaining itself rather than blurring the lines even more than they currently are.

Lerner

Historical Context
As I understood it 'Commercial Art' was the term previously used to describe the practice we now refer to as 'Graphic Design'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.86.147.217 (talk) 12:55, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Commercial Art merge
The genres are interesting but could be in a larger category on Graphic design, perhaps as external links. I also feel commercial art is widely understood to be graphic design today, making this page seem somewhat unnecessary to some. The skills sections in both pages could definitely overlap. However, this page has the possibility of staying afloat if expanded upon. Perhaps, the addition of the history of commercial art would make this more Wikipedia style and how it has influenced graphic design. When I first clicked on the link, I expected to be somewhat overwhelmed by images, but there weren't any. Visual representations would be key to incorporate but on a moderate level. It is more important to distinguish the differences in practice. Commercial art involved the use of pencils, pens, drafting tools, etc. while graphic design is more associated with the computer. Nboffa (talk) 02:51, 22 September 2011 (UTC)