Talk:Committee for a Workers' International (1974)/Archive 1

Apostrophe
I don't think they actually use the apostrophe. A lot of the left don't. Secretlondon 22:29, Feb 12, 2004 (UTC)
 * But they do. So ignore me. Secretlondon 22:29, Feb 12, 2004 (UTC)
 * One of our pages linked to it without the apostrophe, one with the apostrophe before the s, so I checked to see which was right. Turns out it was neither. I was surprised too.  :) DanKeshet 01:00, Feb 13, 2004 (UTC)

'Democratic Centralism'
I added this section. It is uncited as the CWI is very secretive about it's internal affairs. SmokeyTheCat 15:51, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


 * possibly. But in that case the section fails WP:VERIFY and does not belong here. Abu ali 16:44, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Groups in Denmark and Venezuela?
The link to the supposedly venezuelan one just redirects to the Brazilian, I'm gonna remove it for now because of that and the fact that there is no real proof of a Venezuelan group. The Danish "group" to my knowlegde exists of only one person, this is hardly a group, so the same way with that. Of course it should be put back on if these groups really exist. Actually it seems that list could need some cleaning up, one or two people can't be labelled a section, and looking through it some of them seems to consist just of that. 80.167.85.23 01:24, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

The list of groups is of those claimed by the CWI. in the material on their website they claim these groups exist, certainly the venezuelan does, the fact that the page redirects to the brazilian group merely means that link should be changed. Votemoose 15:40, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Well that one girls claims to be an organisation as in Denmark is pretty strange, all you can find when googleing Socialistisk Modstand on google.dk is a myspacesite... http://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&q=socialistisk+modstand&btnG=Google-s%C3%B8gning&meta= Im all for giving credit when due, but this is pretty weak. Another point is that it will give some implications for CWI if her actions should be judged as theirs, she's done some pretty strange things... So unless somethings pops of about actual actions the supposed group have done I think it would be strange to have it on the list, remember that CWI of course are POW in relation to this. The same could be said about Venezuela. Im aware that CWI are a bit embarresed about their initial attitude towards the process in Venezuela and therefore need to change that a bit. It's just that if their is a group it is surprisingly silent in the movement (occupied factories, landless peasants movement, PSUV etc). Of course their might exist something I dunno. So keep that for all I care, doesn't change the "danish problem".80.167.85.23 14:18, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Looking at CWI's page there is not even contact information for the "danish section" http://www.socialistworld.net/ (cwi in your area). All I could find was an article by this girl were the name Socialistisk Modstand is mentioned. Now I would never call myself an organisation, but maybe criteria is different for some international groupings?80.167.85.23 14:24, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

As per the discussion, I have removed denmark from the page. However, given the CWI has had several members from venezuela at events they have organised I think it is safe to say that it exists.Votemoose 16:02, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

The groups in Denmark & Venezuela are not CWI sections, but there are CWI members there. For an organization to become a CWI section it has to get approved on a world congress which usually happens every fourth year or so. To my knowledge the groups in Italy and Japan aren't sections either. IMO the list should be divided into Sections and Groups --Dalen 21:37, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

There is a blog of the Venezuelan group: http://csrvenezuela.blogspot.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.220.153.42 (talk) 13:41, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Split with Reunified International?
Any info on that? Maybe would be interesting developing some on that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.220.153.42 (talk) 13:41, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

The CWI never split with an organisation called the "Reunified International". An organisation which went on to be one of the founding organisations of the CWI split with the ISFI or USFI (I forget which was in use at the time).Zinlet (talk) 06:04, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

It was the USFI, Peter Taaffe's account is in A Socialist World is Possible.Votemoose (talk) 09:03, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Mexico
I don't think the group listed for Mexico - Socialismo Revolucionario - is a section of the CWI. Where does the CWI claim that this group is a CWI section? And does the Socialismo Revolucionario claim to be a section of the CWI? 193.150.248.6 (talk) 18:29, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Their blog refers to the CWI (CIT in Spanish) several times. Also, the Venezuelan section directly links to it among other CWI sites. 85.147.184.31 (talk) 19:10, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Former section of the CWI in Pakistan
Some time in the 1990s the majority section of the Pakistani branch of the CWI was expelled by the CWI leadership. It had about a thousand members I believe. Does anyone know what became of them please? Thanks Smokey TheCat  09:47, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

They became Labour Party Pakistan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.90.173.16 (talk) 01:46, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Criticism section
I have added this with a link. I imagine that only committed members of the CWI will object to any criticism of the CWI. Other editors my disagree of course. I willing to discus this.  Smokey TheCat  15:35, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Trotskyist/Marxist
I have reverted the description in the opening sentence to read "...association of Trotskyist political parties", rather than "...Trotskyist and Marxist political parties". The rationale is that the CWI and its sections identify as Trotskyist, but the formulation "and Marxist" implies some do not. It could be re-worded as Trotskyist-Marxist but I think it would be a bit clumsy and I'm not sure it adds anything. Readers unsure of what Trotskyism is can follow the link to see that it is a branch of Marxism. For comparison, the article on the Dominican Order describes it as a Catholic order rather than Catholic and Christian. Swornguest (talk) 22:51, 29 May 2015 (UTC)