Talk:Communist Party of Canada

Communists to Liberals?
"Many ex-Communists joined the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation and its successor, the New Democratic Party (NDP). Some joined the Liberals."

Any source to this, please? I believe it, I just need a source for my own writings! Thank you. :) Verged 02:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

They weren't communists if they joined a non-revolutionary party. There was no mass exodus of communists to join another party, im sure there are some people who quit the party and joined the other parties later on but like not as an organized movement. ComradeRyan

'The Communist Party is one of two Communist parties in Canada, the other is the Communist Party of Canada (Marxist-Leninist), founded in 1963 as the Internationalists, an anti-revisionist Maoist party rejecting the reforms of Nikita Khrushchev which today functions as a Stalinist party.'

Only two? Morwen - Talk 15:53, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)


 * Actually, there is also the Revolutionary Communist Party (Organizing Committees) but they don't consider themselves big enough and organized enough to be a party yet. --Mista-X 13:03, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

I can think of at least two more, Liberal and NDP FrankCostanza - Talk

very funny Themindset 22:54, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

There are plenty of Communist groups in Canada, but only the CPC and the MLPC are registered with Elections Canada.Carolynparrishfan 14:20, 23 September 2005 (UTC)


 * Considering every supporter of the CPC I've spoken with considers the Liberals to be Conservatives, you insult us by affiliating the Liberals with us. --Mike Oosting (talk) 17:39, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Interparty affairs
As the author of the "2005 split" section, I should clarify the following:

(i) I am not privy to any confidential information concerning the Communist Party of Canada.

(ii) I did not leak any confidential information in this article. Someone else (and I have no idea who this "someone else" was) leaked an edited copy of Elizabeth Rowley's April 2005 letter concerning Andre Parizeau to the "Babble.ca" forum on May 23, 2005. I did not discover this letter until June 17, 2005, when I documented the split for Wikipedia. This information was available in the public domain for almost a full month before it appeared in this article.

(iii) I would not have revealed information about the Communist Party, or any other party, if I believed that the material in question was genuinely "confidential". Although Rowley's letter was not meant for public consumption, it was available on the web long before I discovered it.

(iv) I do not blame Communist Party officials for being irritated at Rowley's letter reaching the general public, but they should look elsewhere if they wish to assign blame. CJCurrie 01:44, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Whats with all this silly stalinist shit?
Serious guys grow up. The Encyclopedia is suppost to be as unbiased as possible, stop throwing around insults, people don't give two fucks what some trotskyists/anti-communist thinks of the CPC they just want some information. We have an official party history writen up. SO if you want some real information check it out.

unless you have evidence to the contrary that disproves the article your above comment may be just as bias a you say the article is but i welcome you to show some concrete evidence and i'm sure someone will add the information and correct the possible mistake. By the way The parties history as written by the party does not count as it is from a certain point of view thus violating wikipedia's guidelines. also personally I must admit you seem to have written what appears to be a bias opinion in the first place however i'm open to being corrected(this opinion is based on your hostility as you acted as though you were offended) Chalk 25 (talk) 03:24, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Deletions
This article contains alot of info that repeats its self often. I took out some information to make the article more in sync with all other Canadian party page. This was the only page that listed by-elections, which is really silly. Alot of the links were also not needed or repeating themselves or already available in the article. For a party with no real significance in Canadian politics, there sure is alot of crap. 74.14.147.245 (talk) 00:18, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No real significance in Canadian politics? I'm sorry, but communists have bet part and parcel to more of the workers rights struggles, human rights, etc then any of the other politicians by-far, they just don't get the publicity. You need to look past the hype, buddy. Really research and read history. Electoral politics isn't the end-all of socio-political systems. --Mista-X (talk) 02:56, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

The communists have never captured more then marginal support in every general election since they began. This is also fact for the provincial counterparts. You can say whatever you like about your party, but don't sugar it up. There are three ultra left parties just splitting the vote- so the best thing your party can do for workers/human rights is try and merge with the other super left parties for the greater good instead of playing partisan politics. For a party who onlt ever had marginal support, this article really shouldn't be as long as it is. and again, the links repeat themselves, and the by-elections don't belong on the page. Just like the other parties. The article is also very messy to look at. 74.14.130.248 (talk) 22:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Also, its an opinion, the information i deleted doesn't belong, or the links deleted are already available in the article. Its silly to keep an extra. 74.14.130.248 (talk) 22:18, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

You do realize that the CPC mostly rejects parliamentary politics right? They prioritize labour, anti-imperialist, anti-racist, etc. organizing. To say that a party that rejects parliamentarism is irrelevant because they do not have representation in Parliament is silly. Their accomplishments lie with the victories of the labour and anti-war movements victories. -MLMwFCC

Emblem is changing
According the CPC 36th convention (manuscript on their website), they have decided to change the emblem by dropping the maple leaf in the background with only the cog and wheat wheel. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Canatoba (talk • contribs) 18:22, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Howard Kaplan
I work for the Communist Party of Canada, as a sort of web master. After editing this page to say that Howard Kaplan, a Communist, was elected into municipal government, it was deleted saying there was no evidence Kaplan was indeed a Communist.

Would an article in our party newspaper suffice?

http://www.peoplesvoice.ca/nov-1.pdf < page two

I'll source it, too, on the article.

We printed all of Kaplan's leaflets, and 100% endorsed his campaign... he is definitely a member. Why else would our party newspaper endorse him? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.237.106.200 (talk) 19:15, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

This is rubbish. First the person above claims to work for the CPC but then says they are a "sort of" webmaster. This is a tiny party, since when does it have funds for webmasters? They are likely fake and a phony trying to slander a progressive man's name. Second, support of People's Voice has been given to countless non-Communists. Is Libby Davis now a card carrying commie? Third, Kaplan's leaflets were funding by community and labour donations and are documented in public archives you can access at the City of Toronto. What ridiculous red-baiting is this? Just because you get support from a range of political voices including red Tories, Liberals, NDPers and others not with any political party does not mean that you are aligned with any or all of these contradictory forces. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.20.26.210 (talk) 08:14, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Disappearance
"With the disappearance of the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada in the early 21st century, the Communist Party of Canada is the second oldest registered party after the Liberal Party of Canada." Does merging with another party with the same ideology, supporters(and candidates) count as disappearance? --Wilson (talk) 04:19, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Organizationally yes, to take the example of this party in question: it mentions that many people founding it came from groups like the Socialist Party of Canada, but that does not mean the classic SPC "survived" as such. Not to mention, though this is purly an editorial comment, the Conservatives are far more like the Alliance than the Progressive Conservatives. Technopeasant (talk) 04:49, 6 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Er.. but then the date of the Progressive Conservative's foundation would be in the 40s would it not, so the Communists would already be older than them. Hawjam (talk) 23:02, 15 March 2012 (UTC)Hawjam

Fred Rose (politician)
According to the Fred Rose article, Rose sat in parliament under the Labour Progressive party as the Communist Party was outlawed during the war. So it wasn't a Communist seat and shouldn't be labeled as such.  freshacconci  talk talk  17:39, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, it does mention this naming scheme in the foot notes, just as it mentions that Dorise Nielson (who my grandmother met by the way) won as "Progressive Unity", although she was one of the Communist members trying to work with the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation under that joint banner - which the CCF largely scorned. I think these distinctions are clear enough, and the name change was largely aesthetic when you read up on the structure of the party at the time. Technopeasant (talk) 04:53, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Various tags
I am not questioning the need for more sources, particularly of the third-party variety, and that there may be some "original research" which requires backing up, but I am somewhat dubious about the seeming claim that a party's own platform should not be taken as verification of its policies. Surly what they say should be backed up by where they say it? What anyone, beyond the Central Committee and leadership, thinks the party's polices are would be purely speculation would it not? This is just silly, and as for spam I see nothing of the kind. Any thoughts? Technopeasant (talk) 05:07, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I also note that the Liberal Party of Canada article cites from their party platform, and since there are no other self-published sources I am removing the tag until further notice.Technopeasant (talk) 05:33, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

recent developements
CPC Convention meets

Delegates at the 36th Central Convention of the Communist Party of Canada finished three days of spirited and constructive debates on Sunday, Feb. 7, 2010 at the Steelworkers Hall in Toronto. The Convention concluded with a rousing call for broad political mobilizations to defeat the Harper Tory government, and to build support for a People’s Alternative to the capitalist crisis which continues to devastate working people in Canada and around the world.

Earlier on the final day of the Convention, delegates re-elected Miguel Figueroa as the leader of the Communist Party. They also chose a new 20-member Central Committee from across Canada, including Communists who are active in the trade union movement, anti-war campaigns, and a wide range of struggles for Aboriginal rights, civil liberties, increased minimum wages, social equality, municipal reform, defense of public education, and many other issues.

The CC elected a new Central Executive Committee of the CPC, including Figueroa, the leaders of the Party in Ontario, Quebec and British Columbia – Liz Rowley, Sam Hammond, and Pierre Fontaine – and People’s Voice editor Kimball Cariou. The new CC will hold its first full meeting in late March.

The Convention followed four months of extensive discussion at the local and provincial levels, based on the draft political resolution issued by the outgoing leadership. The amended resolution will guide the Communist Party’s work over the three years, including plans to nominate 20-25 candidates in the next federal election.

As the main resolution stressed, “Unprecedented developments are shaking global capitalism to its very core, less than two decades after its so-called `final victory’ over socialism. It is mired in the deepest world-wide economic crisis since the Great Depression of the 1930s. Meanwhile, structural aspects of its systemic decline continue unabated – especially militarism and war, and an intensifying environment crisis, both of which threaten the very survival of humanity. The root cause of the crisis lies in the private ownership of the means of production and its contradiction with the increasingly social character of production… Anti-capitalist sentiments and advocacy of socialism as the systemic alternative to decadent capitalism are growing to varying degrees. These are dynamic times indeed, full of dangers and challenges and also with the potential of resurgent socialism.”

The resolution outlines “a comprehensive action plan – an economic and political solution which serves the interests of people, not profits.” This plan includes a wide range of immediate and longer-term policies to create jobs and advance the living standards of working people, to protect the environment, and to defend Canadian sovereignty and world peace. Unlike any other party in Canada, the CPC calls for expanded public ownership of key industries, withdrawal from NAFTA and other corporate “trade deals,” a shorter work week with no loss in take-home pay, and immediate return of Canadian troops from Afghanistan.

As the resolution says, “Only united action on a mass scale, drawing millions of working people into struggle, can breathe real life into such a comprehensive anti-crisis plan. That is why we have urged the leadership of the labour movement – the Canadian Labour Congress, the labour centrals in Quebec, and all of their key affiliates – to come together along with its allies in the social movements in an emergency conference to articulate such a unified program of demands, a fightback strategy based on escalating mass action, and with committed resources to see it through.

“Such a perspective could help to bring together a broad People’s Coalition which our Party has long advocated. Such a Coalition would of course emerge largely from the united grassroots struggles in communities across the country, fighting in the workplaces and on the streets to defend the people’s vital interests. As it matures, a People’s Coalition would become Canada-wide in character, moving the mass struggle onto the offensive, eventually taking on an electoral expression. This is the kind of Coalition required by our class and our country at this time of profound economic and political crisis, and our Party will work tirelessly to help forge such a new alternative.”

In the next election, “the Communist Party will call for the defeat of the Harper Tories – the most deadly expression of the corporate domination of Canada – and to block the right, by also denying a majority to the pro-corporate, pro-war Liberals under Ignatieff, whose differences with the Tories are primarily over the pace and scale of imposing the continentalist and corporate agenda.”

Delegates also endorsed special resolutions on a wide range of issues, from solidarity with victims of human rights abuses in Colombia and the Philippines, to support for protests against the painful social spending cuts being imposed on British Columbians during the Winter Olympics.

Several guest speakers addressed the 36th Convention, including the Vietnamese ambassador to Canada, Nguyen Duc Hung; prominent civil liberties lawyer Barbara Jackman; Canadian Arab Federation national president Khaled Mouammar; Cuban Consul-General Jorge Soberon Luis; Venezuelan Vice-Consul Scarlet Salazar Quiroz; and Roger Keeran and Thomas Kenny, authors of the 2004 book Socialism Betrayed, which analyses the destruction of the Soviet Union during the late 1980s and early ’90s. Greetings were received from some 42 Communist and Workers’ parties from across the planet.

Delegates and guests at the convention took the Saturday evening to enjoy a special dinner and cultural program, featuring performances by jazz musician Wally Brooker, Quebec folksinger Norman Raymond, poets Harjit Daudharia and Salimeh Valiani, and a set by Toronto chamber punk band Red Monkey. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.150.49.2 (talk) 17:44, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Needs more sources
This entire page is thinly sourced and I have not been able to find sources for some of the claims made. Further the tone of the article also does not conform with wiki guidelines in several places. For example:

"The call was particularly urgent in Québec, where in 1937 the Duplessis government passed "an act to protect Québec against communist propaganda" giving the police the power to padlock any premises used by "communists" (which was undefined in the legislation). Fascist groups attacked Jews, people from racialized communities, and communists. " I have not been able to find anything which backs up this claim other than a 1938 Foreign affairs article which states that students broke the windows of a single Jewish shop. http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/69810/s/embryo-fascism-in-quebec

I would suggest that an editor who has more knowledge of the subject than I do make an effort at revising this article. 24.222.113.164 (talk) 18:15, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

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More citations needed (October 2021)
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