Talk:Community band

Input solicited
I have just started this page and solicit any input from others knowledgeable of community bands in the United States and other countries.

G. Moore 02:08, Apr 28, 2005 (UTC)

Advertising?
I have deleted the following recently added text. If it is really appropriate, it should be added back in, but it looks promotional.


 * "In addition, the Arkansas Valley Wind and Percussion Ensemble, in Lamar, Colorado, keeps a lending library of over 10,000 band charts, that they loan to members at no charge except for postage. Membership is either $25 a year or donate 10 charts to the library. Many community bands make use of this service, which is also open to schools."

Gaius Cornelius 10:05, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

--> Many community bands lack the funds to maintain a sizable library of music; modern selections run upwards of $100 each, and many "classics" are permanently out of print, yet cannot be copied as their copyright period has not expired. Considering the number of community bands with virtually no annual budget, buying a lot of music for such groups is not in the cards. The AVWE library and the Chatfield Brass Band Library (which includes wind band literature) are frequently used by smaller community bands. I would suggest a reinsertion of both resources, removing the overtly promotional second line above. -- Ron Boerger, owner of the "community-music" e-mail list/resources cited in the external links section of this article, 15:30, 26 May 2006 (UTC).

Unhelpful section?
I have removed the following section. Community bands are a worldwide phenomena, I cannot see the point of such a list. A list of countries that do not have community bands might be more interesting.


 * Community bands around the world


 * Other countries that have community bands include Austria, Brazil, Canada, Colombia, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Great Britain, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Latvia, Luxembourg, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Peru, South Africa, Slovenia, Switzerland, and Taiwan.

Gaius Cornelius 10:05, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Franklin Silver Corent Band
I've just started Franklin Silver Cornet Band, and I was wondering if any editors who have worked on this article would be interested in working on it. --Chris Griswold( ☏  )  16:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Plugging individual bands
There was an innapropriate, very overt plug for one NYC group that I have removed, and links to several others in the links section. There are hundreds if not thousands of community band web pages out there and it doesn't make sense to plug three or four of them here. Eventually there will be so many links that the article will be buried under the sheer weight of them. The links section already includes several sites that provide links to these groups, leave it at that. 68.94.196.233 02:50, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Will add more shortly hopefully
wrote a master's thesis about this (not great) so I might be able to tighten up a few things. too bad there's no reference written in this century! we need to work on that - should be some dissertation at least if no books. also, we should add something on Allentown (possibly first still in existence) and Adrian (oldest continuously active) and other notable historical things.

if anyone has specific info on Allentown or Adrian OR refutes these as firsts, let's get that information exchange going.

personally - this is probably the most important musical ensemble in the country's history, merging popular and local with "cultivated" and national. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.248.167.87 (talk) 15:16, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

If you get into Allentown, which certainly has the most PR muscle of any long-lasting band, then you might also want to look at the Repasz band and a few others in central PA. I understand the desire to stay away from a puff piece for individual group, but this page has become spectacularly bland and uninformative. I keep expecting to log in and find it reduced to "A community band is a group of people in a community who play instruments together."

I did thirty years of research on our own (now 152-year old) band, including putting it in the context of the band movements' ups and downs through American history. (Musical Service, published through xlibris) and I can suggest some reading formsomeone who wants to make this page useful again. The Smithsonian has a greaty little book by the Hazens. Bands of America, published in the 1950's covers much of the band movement up into the twenties at least.

There are plenty of distinctions to be observed-- military vs. community, concert vs. marching, volunteer vs. paid professionals. And there are plenty of current challenges, including the unavailability of music as tons of band literature becomes permanently out of print, yet with its copyright still zealously guarded by publishers. There are plenty of periods of ups and downs, including the golden age of bands (1880-1920) and the great band die-offs of the 1920's and the 1950's.

I don't envy the writer for this page. Community bands by their very nature are specific, individual groups, and it's hard to talk about the history of all of them without getting into the specifics of some of them. I gave it a shot way back, but much of my work has since been ground down.

Peter Greene, Franklin Silver Cornet Band, Franklin, PA

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