Talk:Comparison of music streaming services/Archive 1

Soundcloud is available on xbox one
Just noticed this don't know how to add personally. (oops word mixed up)

Multiple high profile services are missing. Article is deficient.
iTunes Radio, Beats Music, and Radical.FM are all missing.
 * Done.--5ives (talk) 22:31, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Rokkify
doesn't seeem to exist anymore. Should it go away? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.88.66.147 (talk) 03:09, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Fix Zonga link
somebody fix the Zonga link, it links to an amusement park ride
 * Done. --Pmsyyz (talk) 18:04, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

What about itunes radio? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.208.45.188 (talk) 17:49, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Also, what about Beats Music (replacement for MOG) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.74.55.71 (talk) 18:29, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Google Play Music All Access?
Seems that this would fit, as the subscription portion allows you to stream a ridiculous number of tracks. Going to add for now. Acco Grayfox (talk) 05:24, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Criteria Request
I think it would be really good to have a column about whether the service offers non-shuffled, or non-radio style play, as that seems to be an important defining point of some of these services. Tom W (talk) 17:38, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Added in second table, but incomplete as of now.--5ives (talk) 06:22, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

html5
A new column for html5 support is needed. I know grooveshark supports it. --Johnny Bin (talk) 22:50, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Casting Service
Could this be updated to include whether or not the service supports some sort of transfer to a home entertainment system, such as ChromeCast, Sony "Throw", Miracast etc? This is a key thing for many users concerned about trapping their music on a mobile device.

Which one offers all Greek music?
I have tested Spotify, Amazon Prime Instant Music, Google Play Music and Rdio; none of them have enough Greek songs. They barely have 0.1% of Greek discography. It is absurd and preposterous the few Greek albums they offer. A section should be expanded here to warn Greek users about the awfully and extremely low quality of all music streaming services. 78.55.216.176 (talk) 22:38, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Amazon Prime is missing
I see that Amazon Prime is missing in this list.
 * Done.--5ives (talk) 22:42, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

iTunes Radio play only on Android?
This is what the table indicates.
 * Looks like it's fixed now.--5ives (talk) 22:46, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

which offer an offline mode?
Can we add a column? ( Or is Spotify the only one?, in which case it could be mentioned in comment ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.32.183.252 (talk) 14:41, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Tomahawk amount of tracks needs calculating
Based on services it outsources from, listed here here.--5ives (talk) 07:25, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Do discontinued services deserve a spot in the table?
--5ives (talk) 09:35, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Separated into separate table--5ives (talk) 10:05, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Significantly cut down table to just Service name, Fate, and Discontinued date.--5ives (talk) 19:32, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Does internet radio such as Pandora count as on-demand streaming?
If so, there are a few that can be removed from the list.--5ives (talk) 21:31, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Placement of Windows 8 Store Apps in table
Do Windows Store Apps go underneath the "Other platforms" column or "Desktop" column? I placed Songza's Win-8 app underneath Desktop but I wasn't sure which section it'd best be placed under and I didn't want to make another edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Meiriri (talk • contribs) 22:07, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Removing country lists
I am recommending removing country lists. They are probably quite outdated and there are not lists for all the services. They also unnecessarily fill out the article. Oneandonly1 (talk) 09:18, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I moved the lists down, they may still need updating though Oneandonly1 (talk) 11:08, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Changing paid subscription column
Ive just made it, but it may be better and easier to understand if it was "Free access" instead. Oneandonly1 (talk) 09:18, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Selective streaming?
What the heck is selective streaming? I can't figure it out, and a Google search is no help either. skylights (talk) 23:27, 29 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Its just a more elegant way to say non-radio services. Oneandonly1 (talk) 20:03, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

should myspace and vkontakte be included on here?
i know the main focus of these sites is social networking but when you get down to it both of these sites have millions of songs on them and are used by people all over the world, some people use these site solely for music streaming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deathmetalfan6 (talk • contribs) 15:41, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Comparable feature for services
Could we put in parental control/work setting availability as a column. Something that blocks explicit lyrics from being played. I know that Google Play has a filter that only works on stations made available offline, so it only works some of the time, and only with paid accounts so it would be "partial" or "unreliable" or something. Pandora is a yes or almost perfect or something, it works great in most situations, but I have heard comedy routines that slip through the filter. Spotify has no filter option. I don't know about the others. Tonkthetank (talk) 14:46, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Table: Saavn line offset by one
I edited it just a second ago to fix global availability, but it's more subtle than that. The entire row is offset one to the left (i.e. there's a missing entry). Somebody with the right information should go fix that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juliand665 (talk • contribs) 21:52, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Other platforms
What qualifies a service being available on another platform? Spoticast (third party Spotify client) is available on Xbox One, but is it only counted if it's a first party app?

Apple Music has more songs than listed
Do we take ads as sources? Because it says here that Apple Music has over 40 million songs. Juliand665 (talk) 12:19, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Web/requires plugin
Some services require a browser plugin for the web version to work. I'd like to change the "Yes"(green) to "Requires Plugin"(yellow) on the corresponding ones unless anyone disagrees. HuGo_87 (talk) 20:41, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

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Spotify offline capability should be limited
Spotify only allows download of max. 3,333 songs per device and 10,000 in general. This is not a 'yes' for offline capability at all!

See this thread: https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/Increase-maximum-songs-allowed-in-quot-Your-Music-quot/idi-p/733759#comments — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:ED:1BC6:4900:B886:2F07:5189:13E3 (talk) 21:15, 9 September 2017 (UTC)


 * This makes perfect sense, feel free to edit the page if nobody objects. HuGo_87 (talk) 20:43, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Local music?
There ought to be something regarding the availability to save local music on your streaming platform. There's plenty that do - from Apple iTunes Match, to Amazon, and Google, and even Deezer, this is one of the core traits I look forward to when looking around for something new to try. It's the reason why I've stuck around Google Music's service for so long. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mackerni888 (talk • contribs) 05:48, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Merge Google Play Music and YouTube Red
It's currently separate but in actuality it's really the same service. With one you get the other. There has been an announcement a few months ago they they are looking to merge the services anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mackerni888 (talk • contribs) 05:49, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

RE: Merge Google Play Music and YouTube Red

Honestly, I'd prefer that Youtube Red drops the red, then changes access to Global, Free access available:Yes. I mean, YouTube is a great music streaming platform that is available to pretty much everywhere, no log in required, selective streaming, etc. In fact, I do it all the time.

Groove Music, very poor editing of actual circumstances. Someone is biased and quick to eliminate valuable information.
Groove Music, very poor editing of actual circumstances. Someone is biased and quick to eliminate valuable information. opinion. 2601:445:4380:42EB:4148:979:5FD2:9ED0 (talk) 01:43, 12 October 2017 (UTC)kevin.rush@live.com

Last.fm isn't a streaming service?
Last.fm is in the list of discontinued services, because it stopped streaming radio. But surely streaming is what it does? It's a music streaming service, is it not? 187.167.198.76 (talk) 16:08, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Regional lockout on music streaming services?
Wait, guys. What about regional lockout used for whether the music streaming services are regionally locked or free (or unrestricted, whatever, duh!)?

iDagio
Someone should add iAdagio. I do not know how. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.254.186.66 (talk) 09:06, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

I think you mean IDAGIO and yes it should be added. Murdomck (talk) 12:49, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Why include services that don't offer on-demand streaming?
I thought this article was about on-demand streaming services, as in services that let the user pick the song. That's what differentiates them from an internet radio, like Pandora, where the user does not have control over what song is playing. I don't see any reason to include the column "Selective Streaming" because that's included in the definition in the opening paragraph where the words "on-demand" are used. Anything that doesn't include on-demand (user-selectable) streaming is by definition not part of this category. 130.45.43.153 (talk) 16:59, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Order
Can these please be sorted by number of users from largest to smallest? CyberSecurityGuy (talk) 01:29, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Proposal to add bit rates and Dolby Audio
Just a suggestion to add these two categories. Perhaps we could signify with (free) and (premium) or have split columns. Thoughts? Electricmaster (talk) 11:45, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Trackers and Analysis Software
An important category is the amount of trackers like google.analytics or facbook analytics are used. Spotify seems to go down the same road as google and facebook and hence tracking free alternatives should be declared as such — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8109:8680:2C80:687B:67C2:FE85:75A4 (talk) 20:19, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

How about Mixcloud?
I am missing Mixcloud, which is also a streaming audio service imho. 109.37.153.26 (talk) 14:15, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

inclusion criteria
It's great that the list has more detail than it did before. I did notice, however, that sometime recently several services were added for which there's no indication of notability. As Wikipedia is not a software or web directory, lists like this one are, with rare exception, limited to independently notable entries. Sometimes local consensus is established such that notability can be satisfied by citing multiple reliable secondary sources, but even if that were the case here, the only sources appeared to be to official (primary) sites, which are best left for each service's respective article per the external linking guideline. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 22:45, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Splitting table
I am also suggesting splitting the table into smaller and larger services. Perhaps over/under 5 million tracks? Oneandonly1 (talk) 09:18, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Done, decided on 2 million track split. Oneandonly1 (talk) 12:04, 19 August 2015 (UTC)


 * The only way we should be using that is if (a) every number of tracks is accompanied by a reliable source (primary sources can often inflate the numbers); and (b) if other sources use 2 million as a cut-off for organizational purposes. The list is not very long, so I see no need/oppose this change. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 12:46, 19 August 2015 (UTC)


 * I see what you mean, i'll revert it. Oneandonly1 (talk) 12:54, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. And thanks for your work to improve the page. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 13:13, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Track downloads: standard audio file vs proprietary app only "download".
I think the "track download" column should probably make a distinction between allowing download of normal audio files like mp3s, vs allowing download of a special proprietary audio file that can only be played inside the app & can't be easily transferred to other music players. Quite a big difference. Alec Gargett (talk) 01:10, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Important: Article lacks many important comparison factors
This article is quite limited in the factors that it uses to compare between these streaming services.

For example, it does not include: how much a streaming service pays musicians, the cost of it (perhaps just in America or just in major regions), max sound quality, whether it has lyrics, and perhaps whether podcasts are supported. Degree of bugs, quality of recommendations/discovery, and quality of interface are other factors that are fairly objective that are very important in comparing between streaming services but I'm not sure how you could rank these completely objectively.

Care also needs to be taken to add these columns in an order that makes sense. For example, "Lyrics" should be added next to "Lossless" and "Track downloads" as these are all features. Hyper Warrior (talk) 22:13, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Huawei Music
Huawei Music is a thing Alexifeu (talk) 18:44, 5 May 2022 (UTC)