Talk:Comparison of online backup services

iDrive not zero knowledge?

iDrive simply reads ”no” without any citations for zero knowledge or secure key management, but offering private encryption is a huge part of their marketing and has been for years. Both IGN’s review and their website claim that the private key option they offer is not transmitted to their servers and that all files are decrypted locally from the client unless you do a web restore. I think if they are not going to be listed as zero knowledge, this merits and explanation, or at least a citation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.26.193.141 (talk) 04:17, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Should pCloud be in this list?
https://www.pcloud.com/

It's mentioned in the comments but not listed in the actual list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.138.197.35 (talk) 11:39, 14 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Given it seems to be the favourite alternative to Dropbox for Linux users, yes it should! SandJ-on-WP (talk) 10:10, 18 August 2018 (UTC)


 * pCloud was on this list but was removed by User:Bonadea in this edit together with AltDrive, because they apparantly don't have their own Wikipedia page. I don't know enough of the rules to judge if this is a valid reason to remove such an entry, so I won't put it back myself. The service exists and is popular. Maybe a better move would be to create a page about them instead of removing them from this list? 2A02:A400:676:164:A02E:2080:412C:8F85 (talk) 10:35, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Indeed, in September 2015 I removed it from the list; the guideline has been that there should be a Wikipedia article about the service in order for it to be included. That's not an uncommon standard for list articles, though there are also other principles. The important thing is that there is some way of making sure that the list doesn't become a spam magnet, and that it includes notable services, with a standard of notability that is as objective as possible. The notes and comments are filled with entries where the service was removed from the main list but not the notes - that's probably due to sloppy editing by me and others who just looked at the main comparison. But in any case I agree - if pcloud is notable, there can be an article about it, and it can (and should) be listed here. There was an article prior to September 2015, which was deleted as a cleanup effort after an abusive editor; another article about pcloud was deleted a year later for being unambiguous spam. Neither of those deletions says anything about the notability of the service, so it may very well be notable. --bonadea contributions talk 11:30, 25 October 2018 (UTC)


 * I just sent an email to pCLoud support today and asked if they would create a wiki page, then roll the comparison edit back. I am a BIG fan of pCloud and prefer it over Amazon Drive. Lets see if their PR department jumps on this and builds out a wiki page. my pCloud Trust Pilot Review (sstretchh)


 * Per WP:COI and WP:PAID pCloud's PR department are just about the last people that should be creating a pCloud wikipedia article. - MrOllie (talk) 14:43, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

Misleading title
There is a difference between online backup services and online storage services.

Online backup services are online services that are really for the purpose of backup. Those services makes copies of your original files, and keep them safe online, in the event that if you lost your original files, you can restore from the online back up.

Examples are: Backblaze, Code42.

Online storage services are online services that acts like another hard drive with another folders, where you "save" your files to, for the purpose to access them from any computers, anywhere, in order to work on the same file. They also allows your files to be shared with other users.

Examples are: OneDive, Google Drive, iCloud, Dropbox, etc.

This article clearly states "Online backup services" thus OneDrive, Google Drive, etc, should not be listed, and therefore should have its own "online storage services" article.

Another option: Change the title by removing "backup" and call it something like "Comparison of online cloud services" which can be for either online backup or online storage.

Here is a webpage from Backblaze explaining the difference between "online backup" and "online storage"...

https://www.backblaze.com/online-storage-vs-online-backup.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:48A9:D601:A1C2:297B:C77B:C22C (talk) 09:38, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Are Carbonite and CrashPlan available for mobile? Looks like they are no longer up MK8 (talk) 17:59, 18 November 2020 (UTC)


 * Backblaze is primarily for online storage, but they do include an online backup client, at least for Windows -- which is how I use Backblaze. I think they should be kept here.  73.127.147.187 (talk) 03:03, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Arq Premium is missing from the list
Looks like Arq Premium is missing from the list.

There can be a bit of confusion around Arq Premium: “Arq” is a paid backup app that allows uploading to many different storage services; while “Arq Premium” is a subscription, that includes both a license to Arq, and online storage to use with the Arq app. This makes it an online backup service.

I don't feel confident filling out the various table columns, so I'm mentioning the omission here, so that someone more knowledgeable can take care of adding the service :)

Cykelero (talk) 14:47, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Sync.com
Is anyone interested in adding information about Sync.com? This company started in 2011 -- I just started using it in 2022. (Sync.com is YES for zero-knowledge, and encrypted in transit and at rest.) If no one replies, I can try, although tables are not my forte.

Adding sig 73.127.147.187 (talk) 03:01, 18 January 2022 (UTC)