Talk:Comparisons between Israel and Nazi Germany

ADL is a literal lobbying arm of the Israeli government. Please remove their quote.
It is well documented by credible journalists that the ADL works in tandem and takes orders from Israeli intelligence agencies. They are foreign agents and have zero credibility on this issue. State actors should not be quoted in an article analyzing said state. 2603:8081:6440:FC:EDFA:D2E3:462C:5D44 (talk) 08:41, 10 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Al Jazeera is cited here and that is Qatari state media and several journalists have been exposed for Iranian, Hamas and Hezbollah ties. If anything, AJ should not be here. AJ Arabic had an incident where one of its clerics called for the mass murder of Jews. The ADL does important research and education on antisemitism and the Shoah. SalomeofJudea (Maria) (talk) 19:06, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Why not remove them both if multiple people have issues with it? I don't think it's fair to say "we can leave in this biased quote because there are OTHER biased quotes in the article." garriefisher (talk) 22:44, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Hugo Chavez quote source literally does not exist anywhere on the internet.
Reference 9 (as of me writing this) cites a quote from this source. This page is entirely dead. Moreover, I cannot find any archive of this article anywhere on the internet. The Way Back Machine's first archive of it shows that even in 2007 the page displayed a 404 error. Every subsequent archival of this page that I have checked has also shown various forms of HTTP errors. Google searching the headline in quotation marks only gives results from other Wikimedia pages using the same reference. The same goes for searching for just the quote itself. Midknight13 (talk) 14:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)


 * The statement appears real (Chavez making a comparison to the Holocaust), just the translation into English unique. Here is the translation given by BBC of the same speech: Israel has gone mad. It's attacking, doing the same thing to the Palestinian and Lebanese people that they have criticised - and with reason - the Holocaust. But this is a new Holocaust.
 * Looks like the quote was added into the Israel–Venezuela relations Wikipedia page back in 2006, and then copied here in 2024. Probably what happened is that the quote is really the translation Dow Jones gave in 2006, and was added here in good faith, but the article 404'd before being archived by the Way Back Machine in 2007. Possibly we could replace it with an alive source/translation (like the BBC one) if we want. Endwise (talk) 09:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Replies only towards one position of the debate
Why every argument against the comparison as antisemitic is quoted as replied by someone, somewhere, but not happens the same counterargument with the ones assuring is antisemite?

Palestine versus Israel on This Topic
Although this had been deleted, it does definitely bring up an interesting point on this article (as reported in a Brandeis University publication):

Comparison to cultures neighboring Israel in November 2013

In neighboring Palestine, a partnership had existed between Al Quds University and Brandeis University.

However, the partnership had been suspended for to events on November 5, 2013 due to demonstrators on the Al-Quds campus involved demonstrators with the following:

* Black military gear

* Carrying fake automatic weapons

* Marched while waving flags and raising the traditional Nazi salute.

The setting of actual Nazi symbolism in the neighboring country would provide a more complete analysis of the topic in the article.

Starlighsky (talk) 02:30, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Is a celebrity interview a reliable source of information for this article?
Here is the celebrity interview in this article in question:

"Roger Waters of the rock band Pink Floyd has repeatedly compared Israel to Nazi Germany. In a 2013 interview with Counter Punch, he accused "the Jewish lobby" of being very powerful in the United States..." Starlighsky (talk) 12:52, 1 July 2024 (UTC)