Talk:Competitive dance

Portal:Dance
Please have a look at Portal:Dance --Roland2 09:50, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

IDSF?
In the bulk of this article, one form of competitive dancing is described, but it appears to be entirely unrelated to the variety that has been dubbed DanceSport and which is overseen by IDSF. Where did the IDSF link to this come from? It probably does belong here, since it is a form of competitive dance, but more work is required to actually add it to the article.... /blahedo (t) 05:13, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I've never heard of IDSF except from this article and related ones on wikipedia, and I've been immersed in competitive dance since I can remember (well, maybe two years after I can remember). Anyhow, I wouldn't be the one to incorporate it. It appears to me, however, that "DanceSport" and a generic "competitve dance" are fundamentally different. That could, however, be my North American POV. --Keitei (talk) 07:23, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

It's not a regional thing; it's really just that it's a different sport. A form of competitive dancing, to be sure, but definitely not what's described here. Does your type of competitive dancing have a name other than "competitive dancing"? What is its oversight body, if any? That should definitely go into this article. I'll figure out how to rewrite the IDSF section to point to, probably, Ballroom dancing or the like. /blahedo (t) 03:30, 25 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hmm. I've only heard it called "competitive dancing" or "dancing in competitions." As far as I've been able to gather, each competition operates separately from the others, although there seem to be precedents. I don't think there's any official body that regulates it, however. I've never seen ballroom dancing in it though. It's mostly jazz and "open" (basically jazz with acro), along with some ballet and hip-hop. If DanceSport is a different sport, I'm sure it deserves a mention... I'll keep looking to find a clearer definition of "competitive dance." --Keitei (talk) 22:33, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

In its current state, this topic is primarily focused on regional/national dance competitions in which dance students, ages 8-18, perform a variety of dance styles (e.g., tap, ballet, acro, hip-hop, jazz), all at the same competition. Although these competitions are widespread and very popular, there is no standards organization that regulates them. In particular, it's important to note that none of the mentioned competition companies are affiliated with IDSF or DanceSport. Consequently, DanceSport and IDSF rightly belong in "See also" because they are merely cousins of the primary topic. The confusion here stems from the title "competitive dance," which unfortunately is an umbrella term for this topic and many others. Here's a possible solution: (1) think up a new, less generic title for this topic that somehow distinguishes it from other types of competitive dance, and (2) create a new "umbrella" topic that is fundamentally a list of pointers to this topic and all other topics involving competitive dance. Lambtron (talk) 19:18, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Other aspects
Any thoughts about how dance can really affect a person? Also added what i believe a judge may look for while judging a dance competition

--Olga (talk) 05:12, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


 * How dance affects a person is a subject best suited for the more general topic of dance—it isn't appropriate for this article unless it specifically relates to competitive dancing (i.e., how competitive dance affects a person). Based on my observations and what many dancers have told me, I suspect that competitive dance actually increases stress in most people, in contrast to your statement that it relieves stress. In any case, such a discussion must be supported by factual citations and not personal experience or gut feelings.


 * Regarding what judges are looking for: it's essential to base statements on facts versus personal beliefs. Musicality may be a valid adjudication category, although I have never attended a competition (and I have been to hundreds) that includes a "musicality" category. If musicality is, in fact, a valid category, it is apparently a rarely occurring one and consequently a citation is warranted for such a statement. On the other hand, talent and ability cannot be subjectively measured, so it's unlikely that competitions would ever include these categories.


 * Please don't be discouraged by my critique! Keep on editing, but be sure to support your statements with citations.


 * Lambtron (talk) 13:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Im planning to add some more information about intense schedule that typically comes with participating in a dance competition. The physical aspect that comes with the intense preparation as well. Dance competitions require dancers to up at early hours to experience a day full of physical and mental stress. I feel like this level of intensity should be addressed in the article. Lili813 (talk) 19:30, 27 April 2021 (UTC)


 * When you do this, please include WP:RS citations for claims about physical and mental stress, intense preparation and schedules, and competition companies "requiring" dancers to rise early. Without RS, such claims would probably be considered WP:OR and therefore unsuitable for inclusion. Lambtron  talk  20:35, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

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Judge anonymity
I've removed a statement that says judge identities are "kept anononymous" for the purpose of "fairness in judgement" -- a dubious claim because (1) it does not apply to any of the 70+ dance competitions I've attended, and (2) there is no logical reason that anonymity would affect judging fairness, and (3) it is not supported by a citation. In fact, at nearly every competition I've been to, the judges are announced to the audience at some point during a competition, sometimes along with a brief biography. The problematic statement has been added to the article several times by various IPs and apparent SPAs, who are likely the same person. Before adding it again, I would ask this person to provide a reliable source that (1) supports the claim that judges are kept anononymous, and (2) explains how judge anonymity improves fairness. Lambtron (talk) 14:42, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

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