Talk:Compilation of Final Fantasy VII/List of Final Fantasy VII locations/Talk page

Note
The corresponding page history for this page is at Talk:Compilation of Final Fantasy VII/List of Final Fantasy VII locations. Graham 87 12:57, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Untitled
Hey, uh, Midgar redirects here, so why is it a link in the first paragraph? I'm going to take that out since it doesn't do anything, unless someone wants to write Brilliant Prose more than already exists...

--JD 03:43, July 16, 2005 (UTC)

Corel Prison used to be Barret's village?
I dispute the claim in this article that Barret's village turned into Corel Prision. I have replayed the flashback of how Barret lost his arm - and lost Dyne - and the view of the burning village had it surrounded by woods.
 * That's just a continuity error. It's stated explicitly in the game that Corel Prison is indeed Barret's old village, which was called Corel Village. Phoenix1304 05:42, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Seems safe to assume from the debris that the woods were burned down too? 86.29.39.116 11:34, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Fire doesn't turn woods into desert. It was just a slip-up. Phoenix1304 12:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Picture Overlay
The word Midgar is actually cut off in the article because the top left hand picture covers it up. Any idea how to fix it without messing up the whole layout? --Vanguard 14:57, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Junon is also the same. I've noticied that the pictures move to fit all the words in properly from western continent and onwards. Since the whole layout scheme changes there, maybe it should be the same for eastern continent to? --Vanguard 15:00, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * To be honest I think it may be best to get rid of all those small pictures, what purpose do they actually serve other than messing up the whole formatting? --Vanguard 15:04, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * It seems like a butterfly ballot to me. I think that perhaps making them inline instead of left/right aligned would be better. The pictures do, well, picture the locations. I think they should stay, but with better formatting. JD 02:40, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * I tried a few formats, and putting them all inline creates a lot of space on the page. How about the way it looks now? (Compare: before, after) — Cua HL   03:25, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I like it. I was working on it and stuff, but I left to go do other things, ... I was going to put in a gallery at the end. I think I like your idea better, though. JD 08:36, August 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * Damn nice work guys, it's looking much better. Thanks for taking the time to do that, I probably couldn't have done it myself until days of fiddling with it. --Vanguard 12:26, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Costa Del Sol cottage?
I've never heard of this... can someone elaborate? -JD 23:01, 25 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I think it means the house you can buy off Dio in Costa Del Sol, Villa would probably be more appropriate though --Vanguard 13:57, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

It is. I don't recall what they call it in-game, but I would think it was villa. Ereinion  18:04, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

Fairuse
As part of the fairuse law, it is stated that no more than 15 images from a collaborative work (such as a single game like FFVII) can be used in a work (this article). Currently, the article is using 39 images, if we follow the rules, we should cut 24 images from the article. I suggest we keep the 15 most important as 39 is really pushing the limit. It should be discussed here which ones are to keep and which ones are to go, but 15 is not that bad I think.--DarkEvil 04:39, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

"Daikuudou", not "Ookuudou"
That is the proper Japanese reading for The Northern Cave.

Forgotten Capital=/="Ajit"
It's had to be said over on the Advent Children page, and, thankfully, people are finally getting it. "Ajito" is not the name of the Forgotten Capital of the Ancients. "Ajito" means "Hideout." Rude was not identifying the Forgotten Capital as "Ajit" or "Ajito." He was identifying it as Kadaj's hideout.

Ryu Kaze February 9, 2006

...Okay, would whoever's reversing this please stop? Seriously. "Ajit" is not the city's name. "Ajito" means hideout. Period. Ryu Kaze 03:16, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Nibelheim
It's been proposed that Nibelheim be merged into this page. I can't see what there is to be discussed. There's more info on Nibelheim over here as it is. I'm doing it. Ryu Kaze 20:37, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Merging has to be done by an administrator, hence the discussion. Adding the template just makes the proposition known to them. Whether they do it or not is usually based on the discussion points, or the obviousness of the related articles.  Eluchil  01:42, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

"Merging has to be done by an administrator..."

What? I think you might be mistaken. There's a page on describing to users how to merge pages and it says nothing of an administrator being required for that. For that matter, I've merged several pages in the past and no one's brought this up before. Ryu Kaze 02:13, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Merging certainly does not have to be done by an administrator. The only reason an administrator would need to enter the picture at all is to delete an article that has already been merged, and generally it makes more sense to handle such situations with a #REDIRECT instead. The template is intended to help gauge consensus and to facilitate discussion. – Seancdaug 02:17, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Mm. I meant that in cases like this one where you're moving information from one place to another you can bypass putting the old article up for deletion by having an administrator do it. Redirecting is fine, but in some cases it can cause confusion if there are more than one reprisentation of the subject mentioned. Eluchil  04:41, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

In this particular case, it's doubtful that there would be confusion. The only way someone's probably going to wind up at the Nibelheim disambiguation page is if they've put in a search for "Nibelheim." In other words, they either know which Nibelheim they want (Norse Mythology's Nilfheim or the town from this game), or they'll be able to very easily determine which one they want based on the rather clear descriptions.

In any event, I'm not even going to worry about getting the old page deleted. A redirect is fine, and since I'm not redirecting the disambiguation page itself, it's probably more useful on the whole. Ryu Kaze 04:58, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

New layout
Aaargh! What happenned here!? >Gamemaker 00:38, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Heh.. Ryu Kaze happened. — Cua HL 01:50, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Slight correction: Ryu Kaze and whoever-the-owner-of-IP-address-218.111.209.127-is happened. I added additional material to the sections, but the changes in the images were conducted by whoever that is. Personally, I think they look better than they were before, but I was taken aback at the sudden change, as well. I changed one of the Midgar images to show the full city in FMV instead of just the Shin-Ra building, but that was after 218's overhaul of the layout. Ryu Kaze 10:36, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Having had a little more time to look at the page in more detail, I have to strongly disagree with the recent changes. As I said on the Midgar talk page, this locations list was the recommended sample Locations article and was in fact the unofficial template for a standardisation drive (the FFVIII locations list had already been reformatted though unfortunately we didn't get much further). I'm afraid I find the new layout pretty messy, given the random image sizes and placement. I also think it's a mistake to bulk out a locations list article with character and story information that is better suited elsewhere, if needed at all. To be honest I suggest reverting this page back to this version. >Gamemaker 11:27, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Alright, then. I'm still not too keen on Midgar -- or any one Final Fantasy location for that matter -- having its own page, but majority rules, and there's been enough opposition to either the idea of merging its page out of existance or to the measures that would need to be taken to accomodate a merge. Despite my vehement disapproval for the Midgar page's presence, I do agree with a previously proclaimed sentiment on Sencdaug's part that if any Final Fantasy city warranted its own page, it would be Midgar.

Well, sorry for the headaches and the wasted time. At least we got the Materia and Mako issue settled for good, though. Oh, and I'm keeping the FMV screenshot of Midgar as the one I changed it to. XD I think if you're going to show Midgar in FMV, then you should show the whole city. It's far more impressive as a whole than the building sitting in the middle is on its own. Ryu Kaze 12:54, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for addressing my concerns; and the new image is indeed better. >Gamemaker 23:42, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

featured list
i suggest submission to featured lists. this page is awesome. --  Alfakim  --  talk   11:00, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Other → Islands
Cactus Island (サボテンアイランド): A tiny desert island southwest of Mideel. This island does not appear on the radar and is one of only two places in which Cactuar can be encountered in random battles, the other being the Corel desert (but the Cactuars encountered in the desert are a much weaker version giving more gil but Morphing into a much more common Hi-Potion).

First off, the last part of this, about the "Cactuars in the desert" seems much too in-depth to me, like on a "tips and hints" page. Also, according to this page, you only fight the Cactuar in Corel Desert, while the identical-looking enemies fought around North Corel and on Cactus Island (it's not called Cactuar Island) is called Cactuer.

Also, I'd like to question the inclusion of this island, plus the Round Island and the Goblin Island. They might be interesting to gamers but hardly to a general public. The only of those places that can be "entered" is Round Island (or rather, the cave on it), and that was already mentioned amongst the Materia Caves.Rantzien 20:18, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Lucrecia's Cave
Where is Lucrecia's Cave in this article?

Cloud's Psyche
I want Cloud's psyche to be added to the article! Just like, a picture and short description of the main green-type place that Tifa ends up in after Cloud and Tifa fall into the Lifestream. If nobody else does, I might add it myself. I think it should be added because you spend a very long time in this part of the game (at least a whole hour) so it is quite significant. --rjcuk 22:44, 22 April 2007 (UTC)


 * There, it's added now. Yay! --rjcuk 21:20, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Gaia?
I'm confused as to why it's being called Gaia on the page. As far as I know the only two pieces of evidence of this are the name 'Gaea's Cliff' and one shoddy AC pamphlet. Does that really override the fact that throughout all of the game, the Compilation (and as far as I know - all other reference material), it's only called 'the planet'? Oh, and I was wondering if maybe the parts of the world added in the Compilation should have their own section on the page, but yeah. 86.29.39.116 11:34, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Gaia is the traditional name or concept used in Final Fantasy games to refer to the planet where the story takes place. It is directly referenced in Final Fantasy IX as the planet the characters are on for the majority of the game. IdoAlphaOmega 11:36, 10 May 2007 (UTC)