Talk:Computer-Based Math

Article title
Since this article is about a particular group or philosophy, I think the title should be Computer Based Math (ie capitals). If it were about the general topic of mathematics based on computers, then it shoulsd probably be Computer-based mathematics (ie hyphenated, and with the abbreviation expanded). Deltahedron (talk) 19:09, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Notability
There seems rather little in the way of information from independent reliable sources. Deltahedron (talk) 19:10, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
 * In fact there seems to be a shortage of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. So far I can see only references quoting Wolfram and stating what the object of the project is.  There appears to be little about the project directly, assessing its activities, discussing its particular educational philosophy or impact on the teaching of mathematics.  Deltahedron (talk) 07:11, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It seems curiously hard to find out what this organisation is. There's little indication of where it is situated, whether it is a company or charity and where it might be legally registered.  I couldn't even find the trademark claimed in the US, UK or EU databases.  Is it just a marketing device of Wolfram Research?  Deltahedron (talk) 07:16, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * According to Companies House, Computerbasedmath.org Ltd is a company registered in England at the same address as Wolfram Research Europe Ltd. Deltahedron (talk) 22:16, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Scope
It seems to me that the article is essentially about the organisation Computer-Based Math, founded by Conrad Wolfram in 2010 to promote his ideas about computers in mathematical education. There seems to be no single philosophy "computer-based mathematics" about which there are any reliable sources on which an article could be based, and it seems misleading to suggest otherwise. The article might usefully note that the organisation promotes the use of Wolfram Research products such as Mathematica, that its website is registered to Wolfram Research, and that its name Computer-Based Math is claimed to be a trade-mark. Deltahedron (talk) 08:11, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

History
I removed the text ''Since the development of computer algebra systems in the 1960s mathematics software such as Mathematica and Maxima have developed to the extent that any traditional school level computation can be performed by computers. The typical response to this has been to ban the use of computers in exams allowing only limiting power calculators. Outside education, increasingly sophisticated computation has become common place thanks to the use of computers.'' as unsourced. It seems to be a personal opinion. Even if it the opinion of Conrad Wolfram, an independent reliable source is needed to attribute it to him. Otherwise, we cannot have it stated as if it were an objective fact. Deltahedron (talk) 10:06, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Link to CBM page
I have no idea how to do this, but this page should be added to the general "CBM" page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CBM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.250.92.22 (talk) 22:39, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Done — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.0.118.98 (talk) 17:46, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

Merge to Conrad Wolfram
I propose we merge to Conrad Wolfram. The term/organization are tied closely with him, and there's some questions about the independent notability of the subject. Merging would solve notability questions and help with context as well. Forbes72 (talk) 23:13, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

No. Computer based math is more than Conrad Wolfram. There appears to be a whole team working at computerbasedmath.org and others are exploring the concept too.