Talk:Computer file management

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I believe this should grow into an article to which people can link terms such as save, load, open and close in computing articles (when referring to files, of course). - dcljr 01:28, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Article about saving documents in computing?
(Discussion moved from Village Pump.)

After looking around for an appropriate link for the word save in a computing-related article (thus, save as in save my document), I'm wondering whether there's any Wikipedia article about the entire phenomenon of saving and loading documents (and auto-saving, etc.) in computing and how there has been a shift away from that model in user interface design. Seems like it could be an interesting article if someone could start it (I couldn't say much more about it than I have here). - dcljr 05:41, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * There's been a shift away from that? --Golbez 08:15, Sep 18, 2004 (UTC)
 * Yes, with applications like Microsoft OneNote, the user never has to save, they simply make a change, and it "saves as they go": they can close the program, not be prompted, start it again later, and it will return to where they were with everything still in place. Argument goes that the user wouldn't go and make a document, then not want to save it (at least most of the time), and that the undo function means you don't have to worry about making a change you regret, and wanting to discard the changes and open the old version of the file. Programs already auto-save changes every few minutes, why not save the main file? I agree that things like saving/loading a file are concepts independent from any one program, and as such deserve an article. TPK 09:10, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Like, with database applications and data-bindings? These aren't anything really new, (if that's what you're referring to). However, an article on the act of opening a file, editing it, and saving it, as well as discussing bindings, sounds like a good idea to me. Er, to use an example of someone who would find this useful: my mother is often confused about such things. She will open a document, inadvertantly make a change, and then she will try to close the document. When she does, she gets a dialog asking if she wants to save... which worries her, because she believes that if she doesn't save, the document might somehow get deleted. ;-) func(talk) 08:52, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * I forgot to mention this when I wrote it, but after reading this comment previously and checking Save, I was surprised that it wasn't a disambiguation page. See my comments at Talk:Save. -- Chuq 08:57, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * So what about an article called File management (computer)? How a user works with files with regard to opening and closing them could be handled in such an article, along with other things, like creating directories/folders, etc. func(talk) 14:19, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * Or better, computer file management. Derrick Coetzee 21:47, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * I've created a stub at Computer file management and moved the content of this discussion to its Talk page. Thanks, everyone, for your input. - dcljr 01:25, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Save is now a disambig page. violet/riga (t) 11:54, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Possible topics to address in this article?
Evan Donovan 00:23, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Origins of the hierarchical file system
 * Ted Nelson's critique of this paradigm, as expressed on the latter page of this page
 * The Xerox Star and Apple Lisa's document-centric model of computing. See the discussion in Vision & Reality of Hypertext & Graphical User Interfaces

Real Intent
So is "File Manager" a subset of this page? It appears to me that the concept of "File Management" in this context is obviously within the Portal of computing. Prefacing it with Computer is probably redundant, else we must rename the other to "Computer File Manager" So consistency appears to be missing here.

Also, if the reader is searching for something that helps manage files by organising them, then this article fails in that part of the implied coverage of the subject. As it sits, one may be confused by the subject matter. - KitchM (talk) 17:51, 27 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I came here from File manager looking for a discussion of the preference for Unix shells for file management. Instead, I find what I might have written 10 or more years ago, based only on a short personal experience with Windows 9x, its DOS, and OS/2. :( Computer file may be a little better. --AVRS (talk) 13:42, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Rewrite "Concept of the hierarchy of files"
That section currently distinguishes "directories" and "folders" based on what they are called, and lists some Windows-compatible file systems. Computer file has sections with a purpose similar to that paragraph, so maybe the paragraph can be deleted with no data loss. --AVRS (talk) 13:42, 16 February 2014 (UTC)