Talk:Conch piercing

Merge proposal
Why would we want to merge conch piercing with earring but ignore others such as tragus piercing, industrial piercing, etc.? Earpol 02:27, 28 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Because I had not seen those. When I came around the conch piercing article today, it seemed too specific and a quick search showed that not only an ear piercing article existed, it was better illustrated than the new one. I suggest updating Earring with this information, or at least make a single article about Ear piercing. If you do choose to keep all articles separated, then these articles should be linked in the See Also section of Earring and/or Piercing, so that people searching for "piercing" can find them. Fbergo 07:43, 28 July 2005 (UTC)


 * I don't really have a problem with merging these into a single expanded earring article, for example, see nose piercing. But it would look nicer if it were consistent. Earpol 03:59, 30 July 2005 (UTC)


 * (Sorry, I've never typed on a 'talk' page before. Apologies if I've done it incorrectly!) Why merge ONLY "conch piercings", and not the similar articles on tragus piercings, industrial piercings, et cetera?  I think that they should be maintained separately, but remain linked on the main "earring" page.  I guess I assume that the general public sees more of a distinction.  Most people think of earlobe earrings when they think of earrings/ear piercing.   These other piercings seem more specialized/different. Christy747 07:49, 5 August

Units?
What are the units used in the article. What does the "g" stand for in "14g" and how big is a gauge of 16? OrangeDog (talk • edits) 16:12, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I can answer your questions:
 * In this article, "g" stands for "gauge", which I'm pretty sure is technically American wire gauge.
 * 16 gauge is smaller than the typical piercing, which is 14 gauge, like in this image of a navel piercing. For further reference, an image of an actual 16 gauge piercing is located off-wiki here.
 * It is a bit inaccurate to refer to 14g as the typical size for piercing. It varies widely between practitioners, customer preferences, and the area being pierced.  For example the most common piercing is the earlobe, and the vast majority of people have been pierced with guns and starter studs which are generally in the 22 to 18g range, depending on the material.  PA's are generally done anywhere from 12-8g.  Most cartilage is pierced 16-14g although the majority of people with cartilage piercings have likely had their's done by a gun and starter stud as well, identical to those used in lobes.  Nostrils, especially the dainty, sublte studs worn by many younger women are rarely larger than 16g and many are smaller.  Most piercing studios will likely default to a 16 or 14g for most procedures, and while common, in should be noted that earlobes are by far the most common piercing and most people with pierced earlobes have had them done with conventional jewelry (which rarely exceeds 18g) and a piercing gun.  Patrick of J (talk) 04:36, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I hope your questions are answered. However, in the future, questions like this are better suited for the WP:Reference desk.  hmwith  τ   23:44, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Should Not Redirect from "Cartilage Piercing" and Factual Errors.
Firstly, having "cartilage piercing" redirect to this page is misleading. Technically there is cartilage in both the nose and ear. Also, a casual user looking for information on "cartilage piercings" is probably thinking of either the helix/anti-helix/forward helix area or is looking for information on ear cartilage piercings in general which can refer to any number of things including inner/outer conch, the above mentioned, tragus/anti-tragus, daith, rook, and so on. Cartilage piercing and conch piercing are not interchangable; rather the inner and outer conch piercings are two of many ear cartilage piercings.

Secondly, this article is worded badly and inaccurately. The statement "Typically, inner conch piercings are of a larger diameter, such as 14g or 12g or larger." needs to be changed entirely. In the context of body piercing, the diameter refers the diameter of the ring or ring-like piece of jewelry and is independent of the thickness. The correct word here would be "gauge." While technically the gauge is a measure of the diameter of part of the jewelry, the term "diameter" is never used in this manner when discussing piercings. Also, 14g and 12g are rarely referred to as "larger diameter [gauge]." The term "large gauge" is more correctly applied to jewelry in the 4g range and up.

"After sufficient stretching, an open earlet or similar piece of body jewelry can be worn in the healed piercing." This is also particularly misleading, as it is difficult if not impossible for most people to stretch any cartilage piercing, most assuredly not to the degree where one could stretch a 12g fistula large enough to accomodate an open eyelet. These sizes are obtained exclusively from dermal punches. Whoever wrote this clearly did not understand that a piercing in the lobe or other fatty tissue behaves completely different than a piercing through cartilage.

"...barbell jewelry is usually worn during the healing and stretching..." Again, cartilage does not stretch.

"This piercing is done with a large gauge piercing needle" Again, 16/14g needles are not considered "large gauge."

"...single-flare plug or tunnel." In reference to the piercing process; This is vague. A plug or tunnel could be inserted into a punched outer conch, but in the context of the article it makes it sound like one could be pierced with a needle and then insert a plug. Either way the sentence is either wrong or vague. And you can't stretch cartilage.

"A dermal punch may also be used to bypass stretching." Can't stretch cartilage.

"With both stretching and dermal punching," There is no stretching cartilage.

Patrick of J (talk) 04:18, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Another thing I just noticed is the healing time. 4-6 months is extremely quick for this area to heal. Primary healing will occur in about 6 months, with full on secondary healing not occuring until 12 to 18 months afterwards. Patrick of J (talk) 04:43, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Since no one has addressed the issues I mentioned above and two months have passed, I'm going to go ahead and make the changes.

Patrick of J (talk) 16:07, 18 October 2012 (UTC)