Talk:Conclusions of the Revolutions of 1848

I don't really see the point of including the following two paragraphs in an article dealing with the conclusions/impact of the revolutions. Aren't they better suited to an article dealing with the unfolding of the revolution? Except perhaps for the minor point of England?'s diminished stature amongst German liberals.


 * England couldn't support the Revolutions, as her own subordinate peoples (like the Irish next door, starving in part because of England's repressive  corn laws) would clamor for independence. Autocratic Russia of course did not support the Revolutions, actively helping Austria in her war with a restive Hungarian splinter group. Both England and Russia opposed Prussia's plans on Schleswig-Holstein, tarnishing their view among Germany's liberal nationalists. And in 1848 the inconsistently-liberal United States was exploding into sectional conflict over slavery and did nothing.


 * And why did nothing happen in England and Russia? Russia was still feudal and oppressive, but England was industrialized. Freedom of speech and the  electoral reform of 1832 in England are telling differences with the rest of Europe, who of course pointed out how horribly the Irish were treated. The starving peasants of Ireland never rebelled, kept down by England's iron hand. Others were no luckier.


 * There were rebellions in Ireland, mainly undertaken by the Young Irelanders and the nationalist set. However, they did not have popular support by the Irish population, who were more conservative and inclined to try and coöperate with the failed British efforts to relieve the famine. Homagetocatalonia 24:19, 4 September, 2005

Maybe I am misinterpreting the point of these articles, if so, I would be happy to accept these paragraphs, as there is nothing wrong with them. Peregrine981 14:56, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)


 * I think they lack NPOV and should be at least rewritten without the England bashing. Where did this article come from? There are no sources cited. --StanZegel 04:18, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Requested move
Conclusions of the Revolutions of 1848 → [Something else] – This is not an encyclopedic article title (copied from the entry on the WP:RM page)

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 * Merge both this and the "prelude" into the main article &mdash;Wahoofive (talk) 01:09, 11 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Good idea. Move request removed. LuiKhuntek 08:26, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

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 * The current title sounds like a book chapter title, not an encyclopedia entry. It is the "Aftermath" in this series of articles: → → →
 * Why is there nothing in this article about the long term effects of the Revolutions? What about the Nationalism these movements created that would later lead to the Germany of the 20th century???

LuiKhuntek 18:44, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Merge request
Please discuss merge request here: Talk:Revolutions of 1848. LuiKhuntek 08:33, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Merge completed. - Jmabel | Talk 17:37, 3 June 2006 (UTC)