Talk:Conn Smythe

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"After a dispute with management, he bought the Leafs"? From what I've heard, the Rangers fired him, he bet his savings on a hockey game, won, & bought the TO St Patricks, which he renamed the Leafs. If true & confirmed, I'd include it--if only because it's more interesting. Also, he promised to win the Stanley Cup in 5yr, & did it, in 1932. Trekphiler 19:18, 16 December 2005 (UTC) - Hey, anon here. I think some info about Conn Smythe and his comment about Herb Canegie should be made. It was quite a remark, even though it wasn't too bad at the time.

"I'd give anyone $10,000 if they could turn Herb Carnegie white."

Use of historic front-page newspaper image
The use of the front-page image is used to significantly improve the understanding of the subject. That his letter made front-page news, and caused a scandal is illustrated by the front-page placement of the article. This was during the conscription crisis in Canada during WW2. Any opinions on this are welcome. Alaney2k (talk) 13:24, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * While the fact that his letter made front page news is strictly replaceable by text, in this instance, I believe that the image of the prominent placement on the front page adds to the reader's understanding of the accompanying text's description of how the Globe and Mail publisher may have been using Smythe to advance his own political purposes and I would recommend retaining the image in the article. 24.151.10.165 (talk) 18:00, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

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Enlistment photo
Confused: image of Smythe enlisting is tagged as public domain in the US, under the rationale that it was "published (or registered with the U.S. Copyright Office) before January 1, 1923." Image clearly describes Conn Smythe as enlisting for World War II - which certainly wouldn't have happened before 1923 - and further states it was taken in 1939. Bringing it up here since people are already discussing other image usage for this section, and I'm not that fluent in Public Domain criteria on the Commons. Echoedmyron (talk) 15:29, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Assuming that the Canadian public domain licensing is correct, the commons image should likely be re-tagged as Template:PD-1996. 24.151.10.165 (talk) 17:26, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Use of File:Maple Leaf Gardens 1930.jpg on this article
This file is in use on this article, but no prose exists discussing the image. There is no relevance of this image to the article, and as a non-free image fails criteria #8 of WP:NFCC. The building still exists today, and there are many free images of it available at Maple Leaf Gardens. The image file contains a rationale that claims its need of being used is to "Illustrate subject for article". It isn't the subject of the article, nor is there any explanation why we must have this image instead of any of the free images that could serve the save purpose. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:39, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
 * If the date of creation was in fact 1930 in Canada, the image may very well be Template:PD-Canada (We would need to know when the drafters died and when the image was first published) and, if so, likely Template:PD-1996 in the US. Unless and until the author updates the licensing, if appropriate, I recommend replacing the image with File:MapleLeafGardens1934.jpg which has complete licensing as public domain in both countries. 24.151.10.165 (talk) 16:49, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Agreed on all points, with the caveat that I don't think we need to engage in a search to find the information needed. We have free replacements available, which obviate the need of attempting to verify the image's copyright status. --Hammersoft (talk) 17:25, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

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