Talk:Conscription in Finland

Jehovah's Witnesses
I removed this from the introducion which seemed to repeat something said before. The only thing I'm not clear about is if Jehavah Witnesses are a special case.

''Also exempt from military service are the Jehovah's Witnesses. It is also possible to serve either weapon-free military service of 270 or 362 days or undergo a 12-month-long non-military service. Finnish law requires that men, who do not want to serve the defense of the country in any capacity (so-called total objectors) be sentenced to a prison term of 181 days.''

Edgepedia (talk) 13:57, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, Jehovah's Witnesses are the only group of conscientious objectors that are exempt from the conscription. This article could use a bit more clear examination of COs in Finland, even though they are mentioned elsewhere.

Antti Kiviranta 11:19, 17. July 2008 (GMT+3) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.50.138.197 (talk) 08:20, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

80%
I think it's misleading to say that 80% of conscripts are performing their military service in the Military, the information is from 1980 to 1981 (during the Cold War). The reason why the information is so old is due to keeping that the military classifies documents secret for 30 years, we'll probably find out the current(2011) figure somewhere around 2041 to 2042. Personally, I think that figure is around 65% max, if you take into account "defectors" from the military, I would estimate that up to 50-55% actually performing military service. 80% figure is the latest available figure, but note that it is from the 80's. --130.232.222.136 (talk) 07:46, 27 April 2011 (UTC)


 * I think those numbers were public in the 1980s and are probably public now. I remember seeing numbers in the newspapers every now and then. And the numbers in the article seem to be from 2006. --LPfi (talk) 11:08, 31 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Changed it to reflect the real percentage of males who does (have done so far) the military service in time. Common knowledge is that you can enter it as late as 27 yrs old - and also that some for reason or other, temporarily interupt the service, only to finish it later. The lower numbers of "after highschool" -conscripts naturally reflect better the current situation trend. But still, OTOH, completely neglet the aforementioned point. And those numbers should also be up-to-date. --J. Sketter (talk) 18:39, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

1st paragraph
Is the first paragraph meant to refer to "asevelvollisuus" or that even wider §127 "maanpuolustusvelvollisuus" (national service/totalförsvarsplikt)? If later, is that worth of noting, coz I'd guess every nation will organise every resource as well, if needed. Anyway, the sentence should be fixed. --J. Sketter (talk) 17:44, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

12 months
'''Finnish elite/special units train soldiers for 12 months. So its not only leaders that train 12 months. The only ones I can remember that serve 9 months are medical unit privates.''' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.155.176.155 (talk) 21:06, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

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Career members?
Something missing is where career members of the armed forces come from. Do conscripts indicate their desire to remain in service? Do those aiming at a military career enlist rather than undergoing conscription?Bill (talk) 03:01, 23 October 2022 (UTC)