Talk:Constance of Antioch

Article title
These kinds of move wars are pretty stupid. "Naming conventions" tend to impose uniformity on articles that don't really need it. You'll notice even from a Google search that "Constance of Antioch" and "Constance, Princess of Antioch" appear in the literature. Is "princess" really necessary? I'm not sure anyone actually used that title at the time; I'll have to check when I get a chance. Adam Bishop (talk) 17:50, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Baldwin of Antioch
Who was the Baldwin of Antioch that was killed at the Battle of Myriokephalon? According to that article he was Emperor Manuel's brother-in-law, so presumably he was Maria of Antioch's brother, and presumably Constance was his mother. Is that so? If so, who was his father? Adam Bishop (talk) 03:58, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Bertha of Holland
According to William (of Malmesbury), Gesta Regum Anglorum: The History of the English Kings: General introduction and commentary, Volume 2, Roger Aubrey Baskerville Mynors, Rodney M. Thomson and Michael Winterbottom, (Oxford University Press, 1999), 244;"In 1063 Robert the Frisian married Gertrude of Saxony widow of Floris I count of Holland, who already had a daughter Bertha. Bertha and Philip married in or soon after the conclusion of peace in Mar. or Apr. 1071, when Philip recognized Robert as count;". --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:02, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I do not understand. Did you quote text from Wiliam of Malmesbury's chronicle? Borsoka (talk) 18:08, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
 * According to Aristocratic Women in Medieval France, ed. Theodore Evergates, page 117;"Gertrude was occupied with preserving the county of Holland for the son of her first marriage, the future count Dirk V, and arranging a brilliant marriage for her daughter Bertha to king Philip of France." --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:15, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
 * According to Adela of Blois: countess and lord (c.1067-1137), Kimberly A. LoPrete, page 206;"Bertha, born to count Floris of Holland and Gertrude of Saxony, became the step-daughter of count Robert l 'the Frisian'". --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:18, 28 November 2016 (UTC)