Talk:Continuation high school

Denmark section
I wish somebody would edit the Danish section. It is very subjective and imprecise. One of the references (#3 from "Center Validering - research center") seems not to be a research center, but more a blog with the opinions of one private person. And those opinions are strongly against efterskoler! Most Danish kids attending these schools are not young criminals, but normal kids. As my husband is the head of an efterskole, I don't want to edit it myself, as I might be thought to be biased. Rillum (talk) 13:01, 7 February 2011 (UTC)


 * I have checked the other sources. They seemed to be valid. It is difficult to state whether the kids attending the schools are normal kids or they have some background which should have resulted in a placement at a more restricted environment. I have found some articles which points out that a lot of kids are "smuggled" into the boarding school by the social services because the schools are cheaper than residential treatment centers. An Example:Sårbare unge »smugles« ind på efterskoler, by Bodil Jessen, Berlingske Tidende, September 27, 2009 It destroys the statistic foundation and makes it impossible to claim whether one statement or another is wrong. Center-validering seems to publish a Danish translation of the latest research from England, where is it claimed that the use of boarding schools is close to child abuse: Boarding school is a form of child abuse, says psychotherapist, By Sophie Goodchild and Sarah Rowsell, The Independent, June 10, 2010 However the Danish education is normally considered superior to all other school systems in the world. They don't give credits to exchange students despite how good the foreign school is - see: Before going abroad, International culture exchange (Copenhagen) The danish boarding schools could be better than those in England, which would make the statement made on Center-validering invalid. How differs the Danish boarding schools from those in England? OscarPetterson (talk) 19:48, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

This article started out about American continuation schools but now there is a Denmark section. That is fine in terms of global presentation but the section does not specify that these are "continuation schools" It seems that either the Denmark section needs to be split off somewhere or something needs to address that it is also talking about "Continuation Schools." MrMurph101 (talk) 05:04, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Denmark is rather unique when it comes to Continuation schools. According to a Danish site about behavior modification programs they were started over 100 years ago.

''The danish bard, poet, educational thinker, politician and clergyman - N.F.S. Grundtvig (1789-1872) - was the founder and visionary genius of the Folkehøjskole movement, but it was most notably Kristen Kold (1816-1870) who transformed Grundtvig's visionary ideas into educational practice. While Grundtvig intended the Folkehøjskoles to be for adults, Kold wanted to reach the young people when they entered puberty. Thus Kold's first school, founded at Ryslinge in 1851, was for young farmhands, and this school is recognised as the first Efterskole.''
 * We have to ask ourselves - what is a continuation school. The article gives no clear answer and when looking at the different types of continuation schools in Denmark they can be put in different categories. There are the strict Christian Schools with prayers etc, there are the outward bound, there are specific schools for upcoming hunters or fishers, there are special school for people suffering from read-problems or language program, even people with hearing difficulties. Sometime they are used as alternative to prison. Youth can not go before court when they are under 15, but the social services can decide that they attend a continuation school as punishment instead. Some of them would be called Therapeutic Boarding Schools if they were placed in the United States as this country is the only one to use this NATSAP invented phase. It is a very special school type and I find that this article is the best to fit it in. 62.243.186.70 (talk) 04:52, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

New article on the Danish Efterskole
I work for "Efterskoleforeningen", which is the Association of Danish Efterskoler. The Danish Efterskole is not the same type of school as the one described in the wiki-article "Continuation High School". If you are looking for information on the Danish "Efterskole", read the article specificly adressing this unique type of residential school:Efterskole At Efterskoleforeningen we consider editing the present content of the Continuaton High School-article. We are also working on a better and more correct contribution to the Danish language article, which we find imprecise and subjective. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Christina Juul (talk • contribs) 14:45, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Please use external sources for your work. As a lobbying group working to spare the schools from the general cuts due to the economical crisis your work will be monitored. Working on wikipedia must be from independent sources OscarPetterson (talk) 21:04, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

For further sources on "Efterskolen" please see the Danish Ministry of Education about "Efterskoler" (Efterskoleforeningen (talk) 14:00, 14 March 2011 (UTC))
 * I would have to ask for semi-protection of this article. The marketing organization called "Efterskoleforeningen" are reverting numerous articles without inserting the required sources. I am reverting the edits as they as the former text had better references OscarPetterson (talk) 14:15, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

The article - Denmark section - is sourced on a few newspaper articles about some single problems/incidents in danish "Efterskoler" and does not cover the subject "Efterskoler" at all. It is furthermore biased on negative sides. The Wikipedia-article "Efterskole" is much more objective even though it is probably launched by the Association of Danish Efterskoler (which by the way is far more than a lobby or marketing organization) "Efterskole" is an authorized part of the danish educational system, for normal children/youth, supported by the state and part of a more than 100 years old tradition for free schools in Denmark. I would like to suggest an english translation of the article from the Danish Ministry of Education about "Efterskoler" (as linked earlier) to be authorized, objective information. I am not very good in english, but If no one else will, I will render a translation later. Moreover it seems to me that the "Denmark section" should not be part of the article "Continuation high school" at all. "Continuation school" is a word-to-word translation of "efterskole", hence the misunderstanding. "Efterskole" is primary education in Denmark and "Continuation high school" is secondary education (in US?, not i Denmark!). Both are special schools, but not special in the same way. There is excellent articles on the subject "efterskole" in German-Wikipedia and in Danish-Wikipedia.K fogh (talk) 21:24, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
 * But the efterskole article is totally unsourced. Only a couple of marketing articles from the homepage of the association, which looks like an association much like NATSAP in the United States are found on the page. It doesn't produce a balanced view of the nature of these schools. But the page could be improved. I have ordered the books mentioned on the page to learn more about this subject. I have noticed warnings from several webpages in relationship with the raising number cases involving violence, assault and bizarre accidents like the one with the dragon boat in February.

Sejlads til elever - for vigtigt et spørgsmål at overlade til en interesseorganisation, embedsvaerket If the efterskole article can be more neutral, this section could be removed OscarPetterson (talk) 08:19, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

a small start
I have tried to clean up the extremely appalling "information" on continuation schools in Denmark.

Prior the text only dealt with therapeutic boarding schools for young people with a troubled or criminal background. These specialized schools only represents an estimated 1-5 % of all continuation schools (Efterskoler) in the country. Now the text is based in reality.

I suppose the mistakes are rooted in a massive misunderstanding and confusion of what the term actually covers in specific countries. Generally and in Denmark specifically. Therefore I am very thankful for the new article on Efterskoler.

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