Talk:Controlled Drugs and Substances Act

Bad schedules for drugs
All the *zapem drugs ( like clonazepam ) are Schedule 1 drugs in Canada, NOT schedule 4 drugs :

http://napra.ca/nds/clonazepam-and-its-salts http://napra.ca/nds/diazepam-and-its-salts

Honestly, the entire section listing drug schedules should be either rewritten entirely or removed entirely.

I added a dispute tag to the main article so that people understand there are errors, while someone fixes it or deletes it.

I don't want to delete it because I am *not* an expert in the field of pharmacology or drugs, so I just added this comment and the dispute tag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.37.109.162 (talk) 12:42, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

This is incorrect. The website you linked is the site for the National Association of Pharmacy Regulatory Authorities (NAPRA). These drug schedules determine the rules regarding how pharmacies purchase and handle ALL substances. The schedules are I, II, III, and U. These are completely different from criminal drug schedules and really have no affect on anyone who isn't a pharmacist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.92.201.211 (talk) 03:29, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

HONESTLY NOW
Would people trying to edit the schedules just go to the Justice Department website and look? Schedule 2 is NOTHING BUT CANNABINOIDS! Copied and pasted... Cannabis, its preparations, derivatives and similar synthetic preparations, including (1) Cannabis resi (2) Cannabis (marijuana) (3) Cannabidiol (2–[3–methyl–6–(1–methylethenyl)–2–cyclohexen–1–yl]–5–pentyl–1,3–benzenediol) (4) Cannabinol (3–n–amyl–6,6,9–trimethyl–6–dibenzopyran–1–ol) (5) Nabilone ((±)–trans–3–(1,1–dimethylheptyl)–6,6a, 7,8,10,10a–hexahydro–1–hydroxy–6,6–dimethyl–9H–dibenzo[b,d]pyran–9–one) (6) Pyrahexyl (3–n–hexyl–6,6,9–trimethyl–7,8,9, 10–tetrahydro–6–dibenzopyran–1–ol) (7) Tetrahydrocannabinol (tetrahydro–6,6,9–trimethyl–3–pentyl–6H–dibenzo[b,d]pyran–1–ol) (7.1) 3-(1,2-dimethylheptyl)-7,8,9,10-tetrahydro-6,6,9-trimethyl-6H-dibenzo[b,d]pyran-1-ol (DMHP) but not including

(8) Non–viable Cannabis seed, with the exception of its derivatives (9) Mature Cannabis stalks that do not include leaves, flowers, seeds or branches; and fiber derived from such stalks

So why do people add stuff like Amphetamines and MDMA when those are schedule 3 substances? And Oxycodone when it's a schedule 1 substance! Every time I come back and look at this page, it's wrong!YusufMJH (talk) 00:21, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

SERIOUS MISTAKE!!
(yes they are confusing everyone) i see people smoking these schedule II drugs freely everywhere in front of law enforcment?) yet nothing happens? who proof reads this garbage? its the dea trying to make mark emery look like pablo escobar.(he aint no escobar to compare the two would be like comparing al capone to mother theresa! Someone messed with the schedules and got them all wrong, being ignorant and confusing Canada with the United States. I want to slap them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.106.247 (talk) 07:52, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Seriously, the fact that I just had to go in and do some emergency repairs a month after this blatantly ignorant vandalism has destroyed my faith in Wikipedia. YusufMJH (talk) 07:57, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

What do the Schedules mean?

They were messed up when I just looked at them (Jan 25 2008). Someone is STILL confusing this with the US one and trying to put things like LSD, DMT, psilocybin etc in Schedule I, among other things. Must we make it more clear that this is the Canadian Act? The link to the act itself on is at the beginning of the list, THIS is the list for Canada. Removed the note that said:

NOTE: Many drugs listed under Schedules 2 and 3 are incorrect. From my research, Schedule 1 contains the correct information below. Please fix information under Schedules 2 and 3.

I think they're correct now. It's not a full list because the full list is long, but I put most of the common ones. 142.166.202.113 (talk) 23:57, 25 January 2008 (UTC) Also how is Cannabis a Class 2 yet class 6,7? —Preceding unsigned comment added by True bacon22 (talk • contribs) 16:00, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Lots added
I added lots of information to this article. I hope its useful. -Radish28

What about the punishments for schedules VII and VIII?

Punishments for schedules VII and VIII can be found in the offenses and punishment section of the act at http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/showdoc/cs/C-38.8/bo-ga:l_I//en#anchorbo-ga:l_I

(5) Every person who contravenes subsection (1) where the subject-matter of the offence is a substance included in Schedule II in an amount that does not exceed the amount set out for that substance in Schedule VIII is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction and liable to a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months, or to both.

(4) Every person who contravenes subsection (1) or (2), where the subject-matter of the offence is a substance included in Schedule II in an amount that does not exceed the amount set out for that substance in Schedule VII, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years less a day.

Determination of amount (8) For the purposes of subsection (5) and Schedule VIII, the amount of the substance means the entire amount of any mixture or substance, or the whole of any plant, that contains a detectable amount of the substance.

drugman

Anabolic steroids
90% sure they are schedule IV, changing them. if someone disagrees change it back and source me thuglasT 21:02, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Codeine Possesion
According to the section on possession of Schedule 1 drugs, possession of Codeine is punishable for a maximum of 7 years. This HAS to be missing information. Aspirin/Acetaminophen with codeine(8mg per pill) are sold over the counter (no prescription!). Obviously this kind of possession cannot be punishable. More details on this would be very helpful. Especially, information regarding the possession of codeine extracted through the process of Cold Water Extraction from the pills mentioned above. Dazalc (talk) 00:28, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

The key to understanding the possession laws for "Codeine" and OTC 8mg Codeine preparations in the form of tablets (AC&C, 222's etc), is to first understand that the 7 year maximum for possession, is for an "indictable offense". This would only occur if you were caught with ..say, a metric ton of pure codeine, and were using it as a starting off point to synthesize heroin in a clandestine lab nextdoor to a grade school. For small amounts, in the least harmless setting possible (a summary conviction), the maximum sentence for possession of Codeine is a comparitively small fine ($1000-5000 etc) or jail time under 1 year.

Neither apply to codeine prepartions such as the common 8mg tablet (AC&C, 222). In addition to the potentially lethal toxic abuse deterrents Acetacetaphetamine and Aspirin, these tablets also contain 15 mg of caffeine which cannot be removed through cold water extraction. The user may be able to get high a few times, but as his/her codeine tolerance increases rapidly - their caffeine tolerance will not; they will need to take progressively more codeine (and therefore caffeine) for the same effect. As caffeine dosage increases, progressive overstimulation and unpleasurable effects occur.

Codeine Possesion
According to the section on possession of Schedule 1 drugs, possession of Codeine is punishable for a maximum of 7 years. This HAS to be missing information. Aspirin/Acetaminophen with codeine(8mg per pill) are sold over the counter (no prescription!). Obviously this kind of possession cannot be punishable. More details on this would be very helpful. Especially, information regarding the possession of codeine extracted through the process of Cold Water Extraction from the pills mentioned above. Dazalc (talk) 00:32, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism
Someone thought they'd be funny on dec 4 and add a useless comment. A day after, a possibly even more incompetent person 'fixed' it, deleting all of Schedule II. Fixed it. Considering previous attempts of vandalism by unregistered users, I think it would be a good idea to place this page under semi-protection. However, I have no idea how to request this. --MooNFisH (talk) 14:11, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

MDMA not explicitly listed in Schedule III
The article lists 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine(MDMA) as a Schedule III substance, but this is not explicitly listed in the actual Schedule III. I'm no chemist, but presuming that MDMA is considered to be included in "Amphetamines, their salts, derivatives, isomers and analogues and salts of derivatives, isomers and analogues", perhaps this should be mentioned in the article?

174.6.82.184 (talk) 15:49, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

legal class=F?
Some drug articles have F in infobox drug. Eg Salbutamol. Is this a new class? -DePiep (talk) 12:43, 17 February 2017 (UTC)


 * No, it's an old class and obsolete. The infoboxes are out of date if they haven't been fixed already, e,g, Salbutamol is now correct, There is no longer a Schedule F, and there never was afaik in this act; it was a Schedule of the Food and Drug Regulations, which are separate from this act. However, on December 19, 2013, Schedule F to the Food and Drug Regulations was replaced with the Prescription Drug List. Any articles referring specifically to Canadian legal status as Schedule F should be edited to just say "| legal_CA = Rx-only" in the infobox or equivalent text in the body, checking (of course) that this info is still up-to-date, as prescription drug classes do change from time to time.


 * In particular, some Rx drugs get added also to this act when concerns arise over misuse or over-prescribing—e.g. benzodiazepenes were added to Schedule IV of this act within the last few years. AFAIK they remain Prescription Only but there are now additional requirements the prescriber should comply with, and criminal penalties under this act for misuse. An editor coming across one of these instances should IMO make the infobox just say Rx-only as above, but add a note in the body under subsection Legal Status (if there is one) that the drug is also a "Controlled Substance".D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 07:20, 13 May 2023 (UTC)